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Old 02-22-2009, 02:22 AM   #15
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It comes with a sealant in case you get a flat.
http://www.camaro5.com/goods/camaroorderingworkbook.pdf

and yes I was surprised when I heard they were out in other places.

My mom used to work at Dick Poe so she had a bunch of dealer friends and we called one of her friends at gateway and he said they were out of allocations.
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:25 AM   #16
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I really don't like asking for favors, but I pulled MAJOR strings to get in at Rudolph! The guy said after me there was one more. As I left, there was a couple who walked in asking for one!

Have you seen the CAMARO in real life?
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I really don't like asking for favors, but I pulled MAJOR strings to get in at Rudolph! The guy said after me there was one more. As I left, there was a couple who walked in asking for one!

Have you seen the CAMARO in real life?
Yeah I saw the silver SS and the BLACK concept at the L.A. auto show. It looks great in person. It's not as big as I though it would be.
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:30 AM   #18
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I'm flying out to Dallas tomorrow and by the grace of GOD, there is a car show, (last day) there. I am hauling butt to get there! Never seen one! Are you missing the Cattlemens or the Charcoaler more?
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i was raised in El Paso for ten years then moved but my grandparents just bought a new car from Rudolph like 2 weeks ago
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:32 AM   #20
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Eastwood. You all?
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I'm flying out to Dallas tomorrow and by the grace of GOD, there is a car show, (last day) there. I am hauling butt to get there! Never seen one! Are you missing the Cattlemens or the Charcoaler more?
God yes!!! Last time I went the first thing I did was get some real burritos. Then went to The State Line right afterwards. MMMmmmmmm I love the ribs there.
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I went to Americas my freshman and sophomore years.
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:41 AM   #22
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Ahhh.. The "new" snobby part of town!!
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:50 AM   #23
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Ahhh.. The "new" snobby part of town!!
snobby?
I lived in the ghetto part of town. I don't know what you're talking about.
It's probably like that now, because they've been building a bunch of things out there. But when I was there everything on the east side of Joe Battle was an empty desert. Except for the SAC and a couple of houses.
If anything the west side is the snobby part of town. In my opinion
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Catback exhaust will give you a little more power (better exhaust flow) and a "better" exhaust note (louder with more growl). I got it with mine.

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Cat-back (also cat back and catback) refers to the portion of the exhaust system from the outlet of the catalytic converter to the final vent to open air. This generally includes the pipe from the converter to the muffler, the muffler, and the final length of pipe to open air.

Cat-back exhaust systems are a very popular aftermarket performance enhancement. They generally use larger diameter pipe than the stock system. Good systems will have mandrel-bent turns that allow the exhaust gas to exit with as little back pressure as possible. The mufflers included in these kits are often glasspacks, again to reduce back pressure. If the system is engineered more for show than functionality, it may be tuned to enhance the lower sounds that are lacking from high-RPM low-displacement engines.
I'm not too familiar with all the "enhancement" stuff like this either. What exactly does this add to it? Like what do you mean by "more power"? I'm just wondering what the benefits are, aside from the "louder" sound, which I would definitely like. How much is the option? And is it RPO or LPO? Or neither?

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I'm not too familiar with all the "enhancement" stuff like this either. What exactly does this add to it? Like what do you mean by "more power"? I'm just wondering what the benefits are, aside from the "louder" sound, which I would definitely like. How much is the option? And is it RPO or LPO? Or neither?

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By more power he means more horsepower. a catback allows those exhaust gases to flow through the pipes without being held back, therefore allows more "breathing room" for the engine.
We still don't know pricing, but I believe it's an LPO as of now.
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By more power he means more horsepower. a catback allows those exhaust gases to flow through the pipes without being held back, therefore allows more "breathing room" for the engine.
We still don't know pricing, but I believe it's an LPO as of now.
This may sound dumb, but does it have any effect on gas mileage at all? And is it really a noticeable upgrade, other than the obvious louder sound? Thanks
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This may sound dumb, but does it have any effect on gas mileage at all? And is it really a noticeable upgrade, other than the obvious louder sound? Thanks
It would have marginally improved fuel economy. And the power won't be noticeable, its going to be worth 5% at best. The difference in performance would be about the same as being by yourself vs having a passenger beside you.
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You are very welcome! That's why this site is here. Lots of great info on here.



Well, the thing about the GMPP catback is that if it is installed by the dealer, it will maintain your warranty. That's why I am getting it.
The dealer would have to prove that the aftermarket exhaust caused something to fail to deny a warranty claim. That's why I'm getting one. I've never had any problems with aftermarket bolt-ons and still getting warranty done. Now the internals are another thing. The only cam I would put in would be the GMPP "hot-cam"
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