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Old 04-08-2010, 07:10 PM   #561
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Third model year to get the suspension right and offer some optional gears? That's pretty unacceptable if you plan on being competitive at all.

Hopefully this isn't the only thing GM announces, but I have a feeling it is.
The Mustang didn't get the suspension upgrades until the 5th year, but you are right unlike the Camaro the Mustang went awhile without any real competition.
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:12 PM   #562
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this thread has over 550 posts and i dont think that i am going to read all the pages so i am just going to ask, can those of us with the 2010 camaro get the HUD? i mean i am sure that the 2011 1lt will have a spot for it with a delete panel. so can the 2010s buy them from the performance parts store or something?
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As with anything If you have enough money anything is possible...

Uh you cant buy a dinosaur.
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:15 PM   #564
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Now replace the 2 with a 1....say what?


Martin

Say what?

Martin!

I'm lost and don't know what you mean, but why are you avoiding the subject of you being a banned troll with 157 posts and joining janurary 2010?

Obvious troll is avoiding truth.

on to the subject, I think 426hp is plenty don't get why people are mad they didn't raise it? what is there to change on the new camaro SS, brembos, IRS, great tires. ehh I don't know but that's a beast to me.
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:17 PM   #565
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I'm lost and don't know what you mean, but why are you avoiding the subject of you being a banned troll with 157 posts and joining janurary 2010?

Obvious troll is avoiding truth.
off topic, sorry, but i like your car. i always loved that color on the 4th gens

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off topic, sorry, but it looks like you beat me to updating your sig! haha
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:19 PM   #566
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Some perspectives --

First - -the Camaro team isn't "resting on their laurels" -- more about that in a minute....

Many of you have heard me say "when you change anything on a Camaro or Corvette -- 50% love it and 50% hate it -- and eventually most of those who hate it will change their minds.

HUD -- Our disciples were very specific that we needed this in the new Camaro. Moreover, reviewing the posts on this site will show that many of the very people on this site feel it's important......and so we listened.
No - it's not a 'free-flow' option - and there's a reason - build complexity. And yes, I can see some of you with smoke coming out your ears -- but the fact is that we have to sometimes make hard decisions - and this was one of them. From a personal perspective? I remember driving to the NCM in a caravan with one of the very first 1998 C5s with HUD.....when we got near Louisville, we ran into a cloud burst that seemed to go on forever -- and the HUD allowed me to keep my eyes on the road while also monitoring systems in the car.........I love HUD - -not everyone will - but I think most will.

Synergy Green -- do a search for the subject and you'll see that most were begging us to offer it. It's a VERY polarizing color......and frankly, we weren't sure what the reaction would be once people actually saw it in person -- not just from pictures The reality is that people are lovin' it. It's not everyone's cup of tea - but from my experience standing near a Synergy Green Camaro in many different autoshows -- the reaction is extremely positive. Now - that said -in my opinion, it won't be a 15% runner......but for those who love the color - you can now get one in an LS - an LT or an SS - AND you can get the LT or the SS with RS. You asked: we delivered.

Engines --

Let's not forget-- as many people have mentioned before this post - that the car is still in its first year. Yes - the competition isn't sitting still.......

BUT..........................


............don't lose sight of the fact that the Mustang is not only Ford's "Camaro" - it's also their "Corvette" --

Put another way - we COULD drop the Corvette and concentrate on Camaro only -- and if we did, America (and Canada) should take the entire team out behind the woodshed and shoot us!

Arguably, we're coming out of the worst two years that GM has ever had...not everything we wanted to offer the first or second year of Camaro happened simplby because of Chapter 11...

.....but to assume we're 'done' with Camaro - well -- trust me - we aren't! There are many things being worked on for the future.......(we ARE listening.....)

--But some things don't happen overnight -especially when you are working on a new Corvette..... (and I can't talk about it -- so don't ask....)

So -- if you're a "Camaro-only" enthusiast - you might be disappointed. If, however, you are a "Chevy" enthusiast - you know that our performance cars now start out at 312hp -- and go up way past 600hp in the mighty ZR1 - and there are lots of choices from the bottom to the top........

LS - LT -- RS -- SS -- Corvette -- GrandSport -- Carbon - Z06 -- ZR1 --

......not a bad lineup, my friends........and yet we have many more 'tricks up our sleeves' --


Thanks for listening.......

........thanks for your passion.........

...............thanks for your enthusiasm --

.............and once again: thank you for 'keepin' the faith'



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Old 04-08-2010, 07:20 PM   #567
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That isn't what I meant. The Camaro is a great performer for the money, and its performance would be a major selling point. I'm just saying that solely based on a performance aspect someone might buy the Mustang over the Camaro. However, most people won't pick a car on just a performance standpoint. That is where the coolness factor comes in.


I would agree with that. According to the numbers, the 5.0 is quicker. But we still have yet to see it on the streets. Could be generous numbers
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:20 PM   #568
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I'm lost and don't know what you mean, but why are you avoiding the subject of you being a banned troll with 157 posts and joining janurary 2010?

Obvious troll is avoiding truth.

You had 257 posts that you accused me of trolling with. Ok Im a banned troll. Way to go Inspector Gadget. At least Im a banned troll with a new Camaro and not a hater of the new Camaro that posts on a Camaro site.

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Old 04-08-2010, 07:21 PM   #569
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off topic, sorry, but i like your car. i always loved that color on the 4th gens

Off topic, but thats not his car and he probably doesnt know the name of the color.
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:23 PM   #570
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Some perspectives --

First - -the Camaro team isn't "resting on their laurels" -- more about that in a minute....

Many of you have heard me say "when you change anything on a Camaro or Corvette -- 50% love it and 50% hate it -- and eventually most of those who hate it will change their minds.

HUD -- Our disciples were very specific that we needed this in the new Camaro. Moreover, reviewing the posts on this site will show that many of the very people on this site feel it's important......and so we listened.
No - it's not a 'free-flow' option - and there's a reason - build complexity. And yes, I can see some of you with smoke coming out your ears -- but the fact is that we have to sometimes make hard decisions - and this was one of them. From a personal perspective? I remember driving to the NCM in a caravan with one of the very first 1998 C5s with HUD.....when we got near Louisville, we ran into a cloud burst that seemed to go on forever -- and the HUD allowed me to keep my eyes on the road while also monitoring systems in the car.........I love HUD - -not everyone will - but I think most will.

Synergy Green -- do a search for the subject and you'll see that most were begging us to offer it. It's a VERY polarizing color......and frankly, we weren't sure what the reaction would be once people actually saw it in person -- not just from pictures The reality is that people are lovin' it. It's not everyone's cup of tea - but from my experience standing near a Synergy Green Camaro in many different autoshows -- the reaction is extremely positive. Now - that said -in my opinion, it won't be a 15% runner......but for those who love the color - you can now get one in an LS - an LT or an SS - AND you can get the LT or the SS with RS. You asked: we delivered.

Engines --

Let's not forget-- as many people have mentioned before this post - that the car is still in its first year. Yes - the competition isn't sitting still.......

BUT..........................


............don't lose sight of the fact that the Mustang is not only Ford's "Camaro" - it's also their "Corvette" --

Put another way - we COULD drop the Corvette and concentrate on Camaro only -- and if we did, America (and Canada) should take the entire team out behind the woodshed and shoot us!

Arguably, we're coming out of the worst two years that GM has ever had...not everything we wanted to happen happened because of that........but to assume we're 'done' with Camaro - well -- trust me - we aren't! There are many things being worked on for the future.......(we ARE listening.....) But some things don't happen overnight -especially when you are working on a new Corvette..... (and I can't talk about it -- so don't ask....)

So -- if you're a "Camaro-only" enthusiast - you might be disappointed. If, however, you are a "Chevy" enthusiast - you know that our performance cars now start out at 312hp -- and go up way past 600hp in the mighty ZR1 - and there are lots of choices from the bottom to the top........

LS - LT -- RS -- SS -- Corvette -- GrandSport -- Carbon - Z06 -- ZR1 --

......not a bad lineup, my friends........and yet we have many more 'tricks up our sleeves' --


Thanks for listening.......

........thanks for your passion.........

...............thanks for your enthusiasm --

.............and once again: thank you for 'keepin' the faith'



I hope to see a lot of you at Camaro5Fest................


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Old 04-08-2010, 07:24 PM   #571
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Some perspectives --

First - -the Camaro team isn't "resting on their laurels" -- more about that in a minute....

Many of you have heard me say "when you change anything on a Camaro or Corvette -- 50% love it and 50% hate it -- and eventually most of those who hate it will change their minds.

HUD -- Our disciples were very specific that we needed this in the new Camaro. Moreover, reviewing the posts on this site will show that many of the very people on this site feel it's important......and so we listened.
No - it's not a 'free-flow' option - and there's a reason - build complexity. And yes, I can see some of you with smoke coming out your ears -- but the fact is that we have to sometimes make hard decisions - and this was one of them. From a personal perspective? I remember driving to the NCM in a caravan with one of the very first 1998 C5s with HUD.....when we got near Louisville, we ran into a cloud burst that seemed to go on forever -- and the HUD allowed me to keep my eyes on the road while also monitoring systems in the car.........I love HUD - -not everyone will - but I think most will.

Synergy Green -- do a search for the subject and you'll see that most were begging us to offer it. It's a VERY polarizing color......and frankly, we weren't sure what the reaction would be once people actually saw it in person -- not just from pictures The reality is that people are lovin' it. It's not everyone's cup of tea - but from my experience standing near a Synergy Green Camaro in many different autoshows -- the reaction is extremely positive. Now - that said -in my opinion, it won't be a 15% runner......but for those who love the color - you can now get one in an LS - an LT or an SS - AND you can get the LT or the SS with RS. You asked: we delivered.

Engines --

Let's not forget-- as many people have mentioned before this post - that the car is still in its first year. Yes - the competition isn't sitting still.......

BUT..........................


............don't lose sight of the fact that the Mustang is not only Ford's "Camaro" - it's also their "Corvette" --

Put another way - we COULD drop the Corvette and concentrate on Camaro only -- and if we did, America (and Canada) should take the entire team out behind the woodshed and shoot us!

Arguably, we're coming out of the worst two years that GM has ever had...not everything we wanted to happen happened because of that........but to assume we're 'done' with Camaro - well -- trust me - we aren't! There are many things being worked on for the future.......(we ARE listening.....) But some things don't happen overnight -especially when you are working on a new Corvette..... (and I can't talk about it -- so don't ask....)

So -- if you're a "Camaro-only" enthusiast - you might be disappointed. If, however, you are a "Chevy" enthusiast - you know that our performance cars now start out at 312hp -- and go up way past 600hp in the mighty ZR1 - and there are lots of choices from the bottom to the top........

LS - LT -- RS -- SS -- Corvette -- GrandSport -- Carbon - Z06 -- ZR1 --

......not a bad lineup, my friends........and yet we have many more 'tricks up our sleeves' --


Thanks for listening.......

........thanks for your passion.........

...............thanks for your enthusiasm --

.............and once again: thank you for 'keepin' the faith'



I hope to see a lot of you at Camaro5Fest................


Drive safe -- and put those safety belts on!


I am a ford guy Fbod Father but I think y'all are doing a HELL of a job especially considering the economy and everything GM had to go through.

My hats are really off to you and everyone at GM. And I hope nothing but the best for y'all and GM as a company.

Now I might get back to my friendly rivalry with you GM guys.
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Some perspectives --

First - -the Camaro team isn't "resting on their laurels" -- more about that in a minute....

Many of you have heard me say "when you change anything on a Camaro or Corvette -- 50% love it and 50% hate it -- and eventually most of those who hate it will change their minds.

HUD -- Our disciples were very specific that we needed this in the new Camaro. Moreover, reviewing the posts on this site will show that many of the very people on this site feel it's important......and so we listened.
No - it's not a 'free-flow' option - and there's a reason - build complexity. And yes, I can see some of you with smoke coming out your ears -- but the fact is that we have to sometimes make hard decisions - and this was one of them. From a personal perspective? I remember driving to the NCM in a caravan with one of the very first 1998 C5s with HUD.....when we got near Louisville, we ran into a cloud burst that seemed to go on forever -- and the HUD allowed me to keep my eyes on the road while also monitoring systems in the car.........I love HUD - -not everyone will - but I think most will.

Synergy Green -- do a search for the subject and you'll see that most were begging us to offer it. It's a VERY polarizing color......and frankly, we weren't sure what the reaction would be once people actually saw it in person -- not just from pictures The reality is that people are lovin' it. It's not everyone's cup of tea - but from my experience standing near a Synergy Green Camaro in many different autoshows -- the reaction is extremely positive. Now - that said -in my opinion, it won't be a 15% runner......but for those who love the color - you can now get one in an LS - an LT or an SS - AND you can get the LT or the SS with RS. You asked: we delivered.

Engines --

Let's not forget-- as many people have mentioned before this post - that the car is still in its first year. Yes - the competition isn't sitting still.......

BUT..........................


............don't lose sight of the fact that the Mustang is not only Ford's "Camaro" - it's also their "Corvette" --

Put another way - we COULD drop the Corvette and concentrate on Camaro only -- and if we did, America (and Canada) should take the entire team out behind the woodshed and shoot us!

Arguably, we're coming out of the worst two years that GM has ever had...not everything we wanted to happen happened because of that........but to assume we're 'done' with Camaro - well -- trust me - we aren't! There are many things being worked on for the future.......(we ARE listening.....) But some things don't happen overnight -especially when you are working on a new Corvette..... (and I can't talk about it -- so don't ask....)

So -- if you're a "Camaro-only" enthusiast - you might be disappointed. If, however, you are a "Chevy" enthusiast - you know that our performance cars now start out at 312hp -- and go up way past 600hp in the mighty ZR1 - and there are lots of choices from the bottom to the top........

LS - LT -- RS -- SS -- Corvette -- GrandSport -- Carbon - Z06 -- ZR1 --

......not a bad lineup, my friends........and yet we have many more 'tricks up our sleeves' --


Thanks for listening.......

........thanks for your passion.........

...............thanks for your enthusiasm --

.............and once again: thank you for 'keepin' the faith'



I hope to see a lot of you at Camaro5Fest................


Drive safe -- and put those safety belts on!




We're riveted, Scott! Keep 'em comin, and we'll be there every step of the way

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I think 426hp is plenty don't get why people are mad they didn't raise it? what is there to change on the new camaro SS, brembos, IRS, great tires. ehh I don't know but that's a beast to me.
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