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Old 12-27-2009, 08:54 PM   #57
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I don't really understand the appeal of carbon fiber. To me it is just plan ugly. It is really going to date the cars once it goes out of style... and it will go out of style and many will wonder why they ever thought it was cool.
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:36 PM   #58
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Yeah, but this one is an overlay

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I was JUST thinking about this yesterday! Of course someone would go and do it already, nice!!

It would be nice if Chevy did something like this from the factory, but an actual carbon fiber roof to lower the center of gravity/reduce weight. (ala the Mitsubishi Evo IX)
I just don't see it.
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:17 AM   #59
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[QUOTE=SS Mike;1092025]Just got my car back from paint where I was having the carbon fiber roof clear coated. It came out beautifully!!! Carbon By Design laid the carbon fiber for me, and as always it looks perfect!!! Check it out.......



is that overlay from their cosmetic line? how exactly is that applied and was clearing over it necessary?

looks awesome
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:44 AM   #61
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I don't really understand the appeal of carbon fiber. To me it is just plan ugly. It is really going to date the cars once it goes out of style... and it will go out of style and many will wonder why they ever thought it was cool.
+1 (Probably thought up by the same group who thought Wood grain panels would look good on the side of vans/station wagons!)
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:37 AM   #62
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:19 AM   #63
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Did I miss the boat on this one? I can see the book value shoot down the toilet.

This is my humble opinion, which is always open and subject to change.
Of course the "book" value may change due to this mod, but I really don't care about that for a couple reasons:

1.) I plan to keep this car forever

2.) If for some reason I do decide to sell the car, I don't see this making the rice go up OR down, considering all the compliments I get on a daily basis from people when they notice it

Of course you're entitled to your opinion and I appreciate you voicing it, but my opinion is that this is a cosmetic mod that I've wanted to do since the day I ordered the car. It's for looks, I think it looks damn good, and I'm one of only a handful of Camaro's that has it done so far

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Love the CF roof SSmike! Looks great! I do have a question, Im thinking of the temperatures or thermal cycling that the hood as well as the roof,trunk go thru. How will this react to repeated thermal cycling over time? Also were any steps taken for UV protection, as UV radiation breaks CF down?
Thank you very much. Of course heat and cold will affect the cf components, usually not in a good way. The trunk and hood seem to have the most issues and they're minimal to say the least, but I do notice that sometimes the fit is perfect, then on a hot day, or a cold night, the fitment will be off slightly. This will happen no matter what, but none of the products are compromised in any way due to this.

As for the roof, it doesn't flex like that because it is laid on the stock roof itself, and has that for support. Carbon by Design applies UV protection in their gelcoat for all their products to protect them from sunlight in everyday situations. The roof does not have this because they did not do the finishing clearcoat on it, the simply laid the carbon fiber on the roof for me. Hope this helps.

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I don't really understand the appeal of carbon fiber. To me it is just plan ugly. It is really going to date the cars once it goes out of style... and it will go out of style and many will wonder why they ever thought it was cool.
Out of style, I wonder when that will be, I guess we'll have to wait until Formula 1, and every other race series decides that Carbon Fiber isn't "cool" anymore.

The thing people seem to forget is that you can paint carbon fiber easily. I just chose not to because apparently I LIKE the way carbon fiber looks in it's natural state, and so do a lot of other people, including the judges at the shows I compete (and win) in.

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Just got my car back from paint where I was having the carbon fiber roof clear coated. It came out beautifully!!! Carbon By Design laid the carbon fiber for me, and as always it looks perfect!!! Check it out.......



is that overlay from their cosmetic line? how exactly is that applied and was clearing over it necessary?

looks awesome
This is just a service they can do on the side. It's not a specific product as in it's not pre cut and pre made. It's laid and cut on the customer's car as needed. They do this in house. Yes clear coating was necessary as the carbon fiber when laid on the roof (with the resin in it) dries very rough to the touch and with no protection from the elements. I wish I had a closeup to show you a before clearcoat and after, but I don't, sorry. The clearcoat not only protects the carbon fiber from the elements, but it also really brings out the look and depth of the carbon fiber.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:22 AM   #64
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I was JUST thinking about this yesterday! Of course someone would go and do it already, nice!!

It would be nice if Chevy did something like this from the factory, but an actual carbon fiber roof to lower the center of gravity/reduce weight. (ala the Mitsubishi Evo IX)
Agreed, it would be nice if the roof came cf from the factory, of course you know how much more costly that would make the car. I am in the process of working on a replacement cf roof with a shop. When it is completed I will be sure to come on here and let everyone know
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:02 PM   #65
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:20 PM   #66
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[QUOTE=SS Mike;1325086]Of course the "book" value may change due to this mod, but I really don't care about that for a couple reasons:

1.) I plan to keep this car forever

2.) If for some reason I do decide to sell the car, I don't see this making the rice go up OR down, considering all the compliments I get on a daily basis from people when they notice it

Of course you're entitled to your opinion and I appreciate you voicing it, but my opinion is that this is a cosmetic mod that I've wanted to do since the day I ordered the car. It's for looks, I think it looks damn good, and I'm one of only a handful of Camaro's that has it done so far



Thank you very much. Of course heat and cold will affect the cf components, usually not in a good way. The trunk and hood seem to have the most issues and they're minimal to say the least, but I do notice that sometimes the fit is perfect, then on a hot day, or a cold night, the fitment will be off slightly. This will happen no matter what, but none of the products are compromised in any way due to this.

As for the roof, it doesn't flex like that because it is laid on the stock roof itself, and has that for support. Carbon by Design applies UV protection in their gelcoat for all their products to protect them from sunlight in everyday situations. The roof does not have this because they did not do the finishing clearcoat on it, the simply laid the carbon fiber on the roof for me. Hope this helps.



Out of style, I wonder when that will be, I guess we'll have to wait until Formula 1, and every other race series decides that Carbon Fiber isn't "cool" anymore.

The thing people seem to forget is that you can paint carbon fiber easily. I just chose not to because apparently I LIKE the way carbon fiber looks in it's natural state, and so do a lot of other people, including the judges at the shows I compete (and win) in.

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This is just a service they can do on the side. It's not a specific product as in it's not pre cut and pre made. It's laid and cut on the customer's car as needed. They do this in house. Yes clear coating was necessary as the carbon fiber when laid on the roof (with the resin in it) dries very rough to the touch and with no protection from the elements. I wish I had a closeup to show you a before clearcoat and after, but I don't, sorry. The clearcoat not only protects the carbon fiber from the elements, but it also really brings out the look and depth of the carbon fiber.
I guess you could look at it the same as when the vinyl roofs hit the market in the early 1970's. Good luck Mike.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:34 AM   #67
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Let me add another perspective to the debate.

The JBA Super Sport also has the Carbon Fiber roof inlay feature.
As a Matter of fact, it was the very first Camaro that Carbon By Design did.
This technique used is a great one if this is on your Mod list.

The JBA Super Sport is a CGM car. We opted for the inlay as a result of our SEMA
build plan. We very much intended a Monochromatic Subtle look. Adding a Carbon
inlay to a Cyber Grey Metallic car worked for our build due to the color of CF and
the CGM color being so close in value. As a matter of fact, very few people even
see the inlay until the walk up next to the car.





We also did an inlay on the front bumper lip and in the scoop.



Up close it is quite nice, but you have to be committed to the look.
We also have the option to mask off and continue the SS stripes over
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Old 12-29-2009, 07:59 PM   #68
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Agreed, it would be nice if the roof came cf from the factory, of course you know how much more costly that would make the car. I am in the process of working on a replacement cf roof with a shop. When it is completed I will be sure to come on here and let everyone know
Cool man, keep us updated!
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Old 12-31-2009, 01:18 AM   #69
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did carbon by design do stripes on they jba camaro also?
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did carbon by design do stripes on they jba camaro also?
The JBA Camaro has all of our stuff on it. JBA just painted the trunk and hood and left the stripes in carbon.

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