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ZOOMSS · 02-22-2015, 06:35 PM

Does anyone have any experience with the PF48e filters? I got one for the first time today and the pressed-in threads and plastic internals threw up a few red flags with me. Seems to be a bit fragile for a high performance engine so I want to know if anyone has had any issues with them, I'm a little more than OCD about car maintenance and prefer to use OE filters but the idea of trusting my engine to a filter with plastic insides and thin case walls awash in hot oil seems a bit iffy to me.

rberns · 02-22-2015, 06:59 PM

If you can find them get the PF48. The PF48e is an eco-friendly filter that sucks.

ICTsccaCamaro · 02-22-2015, 10:20 PM

Yes the "E" core filters are plastic inside, try and find the none e cores if you can.

shibbs · 02-22-2015, 11:01 PM

PF48R is about the best filter for the money if your local market is saturated with the 48e as mine is.

Indydriver · 02-23-2015, 01:35 AM

If you want to solve your filter needs for a long time, buy a case of Wix/Napa Gold from these guys and be done with it.

http://www.fleetfilter.com/

GMTool · 02-23-2015, 10:45 AM

I've been using the PF48 since new. Now I also can't find any anywhere. Really don't want to order any off the internet, never know what your getting. I have been using the ACDelco e core oil filters on my Buick and Silverado for years now and have never had a problem. I guess the new Camaro SS cars come from the factory with a PF48E filter. So I do believe I will just go ahead and start using the PF48E filter.

Rock-It Man · 02-24-2015, 05:48 AM

What's wrong with PF48e? I can see that the internal structure is plastic, but so what? Lot's of stuff on the engine is plastic.

wakespeak · 02-26-2015, 11:19 PM

Wondering same. The e is supposed to be better for high temps since it has no adhesive. The plastic core looks like it would allow more flow than the metal core with tiny holes. I went with a Wix XP for now.

cajun1le · 02-27-2015, 12:41 AM

I use a Napa Platinum 47060, its basically a WIX filter with Napa's name on it. Why do I use this filter over the OE filters? Its because there's a magnet in the center bore to collect ferrous particulates and the media is composed of a steel reinforced synthetic one.

Instead of me rehashing my "theory of all things filters", be sure to check out the link below and look for the posts from "JFT69Z" (the ones with the pictures).

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...-upf48r-2.html

ZOOMSS · 03-05-2015, 08:41 PM

Plastics, especially cheap ones like the ones inside this filter break down when exposed to high temps which is one reason I am unsure about using them, the other is that I don't trust the press in threads. I wound up going with a K&N filter, it seems to be near identical to the PF48's and has the "ZZ" stamp on it.

Denis · 03-30-2015, 05:51 PM

just picked up a PF48E from autozone. i dont see anything wrong with how it looks.

i cant find a PF48R locally. seems like you'd need to order it online.

GMTool · 05-08-2015, 04:24 PM

Changed my oil over 2 weeks ago and used the PF48E filter. 900 miles later, no difference, no problems, everything is fine.

snarky · 05-08-2015, 04:45 PM

I bought a Bosch D3334. Here's an interesting pic / comments of 3 filters cut apart

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...-upf48r-5.html

02-22-2015, 06:35 PM	#1
ZOOMSS Drives: 2010 Red Jewel 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 147 View My Garage	PF48e vs other filters Does anyone have any experience with the PF48e filters? I got one for the first time today and the pressed-in threads and plastic internals threw up a few red flags with me. Seems to be a bit fragile for a high performance engine so I want to know if anyone has had any issues with them, I'm a little more than OCD about car maintenance and prefer to use OE filters but the idea of trusting my engine to a filter with plastic insides and thin case walls awash in hot oil seems a bit iffy to me.

02-22-2015, 06:59 PM	#2
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	If you can find them get the PF48. The PF48e is an eco-friendly filter that sucks. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

02-22-2015, 10:20 PM	#3
ICTsccaCamaro ITCRNRS Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 1,575	Yes the "E" core filters are plastic inside, try and find the none e cores if you can. __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE Ordered 6/29/17 Built 11/6/17 Delivered 12/7/17, Summit White, PDR, NAV, https://www.youtube.com/c/tylerpotter SOLD: 2014 Summit White 1LE 2SS/RS, Recaros, NPP, NAV, KONI Yellow's SOLD: 2012 Black 2LT/RS, Fully 1LE swapped, Brembo swap

02-23-2015, 01:35 AM	#5
Indydriver Drives: '14 2SS/RS Vert 6M/KTU/NPP/DTA/ARH Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,826	If you want to solve your filter needs for a long time, buy a case of Wix/Napa Gold from these guys and be done with it. http://www.fleetfilter.com/ __________________ Consensus is, by definition, a lack of leadership.

02-23-2015, 10:45 AM	#6
GMTool MY SS is SOLD Drives: AGM 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southwest Illinois Posts: 1,838	I've been using the PF48 since new. Now I also can't find any anywhere. Really don't want to order any off the internet, never know what your getting. I have been using the ACDelco e core oil filters on my Buick and Silverado for years now and have never had a problem. I guess the new Camaro SS cars come from the factory with a PF48E filter. So I do believe I will just go ahead and start using the PF48E filter. __________________ CAI, Dynatech Headers, HF Cats, JRE Tuned, Corsa Cat Back, Strut Tower Brace.

02-24-2015, 05:48 AM	#7
Rock-It Man 376 cubic inches of fun Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: MA Posts: 4,033 View My Garage	What's wrong with PF48e? I can see that the internal structure is plastic, but so what? Lot's of stuff on the engine is plastic.

02-26-2015, 11:19 PM	#8
wakespeak Drives: 2020 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,335	Wondering same. The e is supposed to be better for high temps since it has no adhesive. The plastic core looks like it would allow more flow than the metal core with tiny holes. I went with a Wix XP for now. __________________ 2020 ZL1 1LE [Moroso SC Expansion Tank, otherwise stock]

02-27-2015, 12:41 AM	#9
cajun1le The Mechanic Drives: a sports car Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Louisiana Posts: 316	I use a Napa Platinum 47060, its basically a WIX filter with Napa's name on it. Why do I use this filter over the OE filters? Its because there's a magnet in the center bore to collect ferrous particulates and the media is composed of a steel reinforced synthetic one. Instead of me rehashing my "theory of all things filters", be sure to check out the link below and look for the posts from "JFT69Z" (the ones with the pictures). http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...-upf48r-2.html

03-05-2015, 08:41 PM	#10
ZOOMSS Drives: 2010 Red Jewel 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 147 View My Garage	Plastics, especially cheap ones like the ones inside this filter break down when exposed to high temps which is one reason I am unsure about using them, the other is that I don't trust the press in threads. I wound up going with a K&N filter, it seems to be near identical to the PF48's and has the "ZZ" stamp on it.

03-30-2015, 05:51 PM	#11
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	just picked up a PF48E from autozone. i dont see anything wrong with how it looks. i cant find a PF48R locally. seems like you'd need to order it online. __________________

05-08-2015, 04:24 PM	#12
GMTool MY SS is SOLD Drives: AGM 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southwest Illinois Posts: 1,838	Changed my oil over 2 weeks ago and used the PF48E filter. 900 miles later, no difference, no problems, everything is fine. __________________ CAI, Dynatech Headers, HF Cats, JRE Tuned, Corsa Cat Back, Strut Tower Brace.

05-08-2015, 04:45 PM	#13
snarky ultracrepidarianism Drives: '14 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP '18 Accord Sport Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: where folks drive like shit Posts: 1,297	I bought a Bosch D3334. Here's an interesting pic / comments of 3 filters cut apart http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...-upf48r-5.html __________________