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mattbatt · 09-28-2011, 01:55 PM

ok, why is SW almost TWICE the expense of JBA when the sound of JBA seems more aggressive anyway?

People need to start doing proper audio recording too, especially companies. When I get my exhaust, I'll record with a condenser and cardiod, mix it, master it.

mattbatt · 09-28-2011, 01:59 PM

Finally, maybe it comes down to the X pipe verses H pipe of the JBA. I want the popping to be accented. Whose is better?

Sorry for asking questions, but $600-$1200 is a lot for having a good 'note' and no performance. I paid $1800 for a custom tube guitar amp and get to enjoy all types of raunchy, beautiful 'notes' and music, lol

blazzin1 · 09-28-2011, 02:11 PM

Maybe the JBA system is made of 409 Stainless too?? I don't know for sure. I know the SW is 304 all the way to the tips. I was always told the X-pipe is better than a H-pipe. And if you want the decel popping to be "accented", I can tell you that mine is very pronounced. Sounds Great!!! Send Apex Chase a PM and ask him for his best price on the SW system, it's not $1200!!!

*Mindz* · 09-28-2011, 02:45 PM

Mattbatt, where in CA are you located? You may be able to find some local people who have the systems and hear them in person. Unless you get the same camera at the same angle recording both back to back, you will never be able to tell anything by videos.

Good2go · 09-28-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindz

Mattbatt, where in CA are you located? You may be able to find some local people who have the systems and hear them in person. Unless you get the same camera at the same angle recording both back to back, you will never be able to tell anything by videos.

Apex Motorsports · 09-28-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mattbatt

ok, why is SW almost TWICE the expense of JBA when the sound of JBA seems more aggressive anyway?

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Originally Posted by blazzin1

Maybe the JBA system is made of 409 Stainless too?? I don't know for sure. I know the SW is 304 all the way to the tips. I was always told the X-pipe is better than a H-pipe. And if you want the decel popping to be "accented", I can tell you that mine is very pronounced. Sounds Great!!! Send Apex Chase a PM and ask him for his best price on the SW system, it's not $1200!!!

I would say the big part of it is that JBA uses 409 stainless steel (OEM grade) and Stainless Works uses much higher quality 304L stainless steel. Another factor increasing the price disparity due to material costs would be that Stainless Works enforces a Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) policy and it does not appear that JBA does.

mattbatt · 09-28-2011, 05:35 PM

I live in El Dorado Hills, CA, 30 minutes from Sacramento.

Thank you Chase for your input, I do appreciate it. I didn't know about the metal.

Finally, what is a fair estimation of installation cost? I don't have a lift or anything and figured I'd have someone do it unless it is pretty easy...

Juiced1 · 09-28-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mattbatt

I live in El Dorado Hills, CA, 30 minutes from Sacramento.

Thank you Chase for your input, I do appreciate it. I didn't know about the metal.

Finally, what is a fair estimation of installation cost? I don't have a lift or anything and figured I'd have someone do it unless it is pretty easy...

A catback installs pretty easy with basic hand tools. Any local shop should do it for $100 or less but if you wanted to do it yourself it's not to difficult. Just make sure you have a good set of jack stands and take your time. Make sure everything is straight and where it needs to be before you tighten it down.

Apex Motorsports · 09-28-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Juiced1

A catback installs pretty easy with basic hand tools. Any local shop should do it for $100 or less but if you wanted to do it yourself it's not to difficult. Just make sure you have a good set of jack stands and take your time. Make sure everything is straight and where it needs to be before you tighten it down.

+1 A buddy and a couple of good beers help too.

2010 4 DW · 09-28-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blazzin1

Maybe the JBA system is made of 409 Stainless too?? I don't know for sure. I know the SW is 304 all the way to the tips. I was always told the X-pipe is better than a H-pipe. And if you want the decel popping to be "accented", I can tell you that mine is very pronounced. Sounds Great!!! Send Apex Chase a PM and ask him for his best price on the SW system, it's not $1200!!!

The JBA system was 409SS but I figured if Magnaflow uses 409SS and charges 1K for their system then the JBA for $500.00 was not bad.

I never care about the grade of stainless as I paint all my exhaust systems with Black BBQ paint right away as I don't like the eye sore.

Just my 02

*Mindz* · 09-28-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mattbatt

I live in El Dorado Hills, CA, 30 minutes from Sacramento.

Thank you Chase for your input, I do appreciate it. I didn't know about the metal.

Finally, what is a fair estimation of installation cost? I don't have a lift or anything and figured I'd have someone do it unless it is pretty easy...

My parents live 5 minutes from the boat launch ramp of Lake Folsom.

I know people here in the bay area that have both catbacks, but it's kind of a drive for you to come down and hear them in person. I don't know when either of them are going up your way next either.

Installing a cat back exhaust isn't very difficult if you can get a jack and stands. Takes about an hour or two if you don't know what you're doing. It's just bolts and clamps is all.
Most shops with a lift should be able to install an exhaust in 30 minutes if the fitment of the system is good.

The 409 I have on the Flowmaster exhaust has held up just fine. I don't see the difference between 304 and 409 on exhaust except 304 is polished.

mattbatt · 09-28-2011, 07:36 PM

Well, I went with SW and a CAI + a MAF. I'm excited, thank you Chase, thank you guys for your inputs. I look forward to taking some audio sound clips of before and after too.

Good2go · 09-28-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mattbatt

Well, I went with SW and a CAI + a MAF. I'm excited, thank you Chase, thank you guys for your inputs. I look forward to taking some audio sound clips of before and after too.

Nice! I hope to be able to throw up a vid by the end of the week.

Good2go · 09-28-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

That is going to rock!

I can't wait to hear her "sing"!

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09-28-2011, 01:55 PM	#15
mattbatt Drives: 2019 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: CA Posts: 100	ok, why is SW almost TWICE the expense of JBA when the sound of JBA seems more aggressive anyway? People need to start doing proper audio recording too, especially companies. When I get my exhaust, I'll record with a condenser and cardiod, mix it, master it.

09-28-2011, 01:59 PM	#16
mattbatt Drives: 2019 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: CA Posts: 100	Finally, maybe it comes down to the X pipe verses H pipe of the JBA. I want the popping to be accented. Whose is better? Sorry for asking questions, but $600-$1200 is a lot for having a good 'note' and no performance. I paid $1800 for a custom tube guitar amp and get to enjoy all types of raunchy, beautiful 'notes' and music, lol

09-28-2011, 02:11 PM	#17
blazzin1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS R6P Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: St. Cloud, FL Posts: 4,845 View My Garage	Maybe the JBA system is made of 409 Stainless too?? I don't know for sure. I know the SW is 304 all the way to the tips. I was always told the X-pipe is better than a H-pipe. And if you want the decel popping to be "accented", I can tell you that mine is very pronounced. Sounds Great!!! Send Apex Chase a PM and ask him for his best price on the SW system, it's not $1200!!!

09-28-2011, 05:35 PM	#21
mattbatt Drives: 2019 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: CA Posts: 100	I live in El Dorado Hills, CA, 30 minutes from Sacramento. Thank you Chase for your input, I do appreciate it. I didn't know about the metal. Finally, what is a fair estimation of installation cost? I don't have a lift or anything and figured I'd have someone do it unless it is pretty easy...

09-28-2011, 07:36 PM	#26
mattbatt Drives: 2019 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: CA Posts: 100	Well, I went with SW and a CAI + a MAF. I'm excited, thank you Chase, thank you guys for your inputs. I look forward to taking some audio sound clips of before and after too.