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Ikmv · 10-29-2013, 08:05 PM

Yeah....sitting here waiting for tow truck. Same one I think as Johnny that seized the V3 pulley spins and so is the middle one but the other one is "stuck". Belt was wrapped around the steering wheel hose and I think tore it cause there is fluid all over the underside....Stupid me thought it wouldn't happen to me till they sent me ones... Any one have andy's phone #?

HP Turbine · 10-29-2013, 08:11 PM

ouch!

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-29-2013, 08:17 PM

PM sent. Let me know if I can help. Let me guess, you didn't put the stock belt, 1/2" breaker bar with extension and an 8mm Allen wrench in your car, did ya? If you did, you could be driving right now.

You may have had the power steering hose get knocked off. If so, easy fix. Hopefully it didn't break a pressure line, but rather the return line.

John B.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-29-2013, 08:26 PM

Fear not, they'll make it right, as they're a straight up great company. Tell Andy you need a new belt and he'll make sure you get that as well. Not sure, but they may be on back order on the bearings.

Did you call GM Roadside Assistance? That's all free n stuff.

John B.

stevey_frac · 10-29-2013, 08:34 PM

Ouch. Watching with interest to see how they handle it. Hopefully they get you all fixed up.

sycraft · 10-29-2013, 08:54 PM

Get Hybrid Ceramic bearings from Boca Bearings and be done with it....they press out and in after a snap ring is removed... They will last longer than the ones IPF is upgrading to. They are sealed and run cool and long. Just pulled mine after 7500 miles to inspect, absolutely perfect....

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-29-2013, 09:07 PM

Sycraft, help these guys out. How about a link and a price? Details have been pretty scarce except for you mentioning them here and there.

Just out of curiosity, how do you inspect sealed bearings?

John B.

sycraft · 10-29-2013, 09:22 PM

There should be a number on the bearing, go here

http://www.bocabearings.com/dropin.a...d-Bearings.txt

Call them and get 4 sealed , hybrid ceramic bearings with synthetic cages. They are not cheap, about 60 bucks each... I think the size is a 6003

http://www.bocabearings.com/bearing-...2YSTH9C3BK5NB2

Lil' Nasty · 10-29-2013, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycraft

There should be a number on the bearing, go here

http://www.bocabearings.com/dropin.a...d-Bearings.txt

Call them and get 4 sealed , hybrid ceramic bearings with synthetic cages. They are not cheap, about 60 bucks each... I think the size is a 6003

http://www.bocabearings.com/bearing-...2YSTH9C3BK5NB2

Thanks Sycraft, added to the list...

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-29-2013, 09:40 PM

Wow, for that price I think I'll take my chances with their German replacements. Sycraft, have you had a look at the new ones to compare? With my stock belt and tools in the trunk of course, I know I can get mine home now.

John B.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-30-2013, 11:48 AM

lkmv, any update?

John B.

Ikmv · 10-30-2013, 12:52 PM

I have given my information and what not to the. When your's seized up did the other pulley need to be replaced? mines is gunked up with the rubber from the belt the other one, but it can still spin.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-30-2013, 01:43 PM

The belt gunk just wipes right off with a little effort. The pulley themselves do not get replaced, just the bearings. You will want to replace all four bearings, which covers both pulleys. Since the replacements are from a different manufacturer, you'd certainly want to get those old ones out of there.

Remove both pulleys. There are black spacers installed on both sides of the pulleys. Remove the four spacers. Now, you'll see the bearings. You'll have to press those out and press the new ones in. If you don't know how, have a machine shop do it and then have the machine shop press the spacers back into place.

To replace the belt, you'll have to unbolt the front half of the supercharger from the rear bracket. It's all done with Allen head fasteners and is pretty easy. I undid my intake and discharge hoses, but later saw that I probably didn't even need to do that since they are flexible enough to move enough to allow you to slip the belt into place. Refer to the installation instructions to route the belt correctly and then bolt everything back together, reinstalling the idler pulleys in the process. If you stare at the whole thing long enough before you start, you'll see which bolts need to come out and go back in; I think it's only five bolts plus the pulleys themselves. Not too bad.

If you need to drive in the meantime, reinstall your stock belt (routing is in your owner's manual). It will run just fine.

Let me know if you get stuck and I'll try to help.

John B.

Sikoriko · 10-30-2013, 02:10 PM

I have over 13000 on the original bearings. now they are starting to make some noise. But the wait is like 14 weeks. when I called two weeks ago. 12 now. time to put the 1/2" ratchet and spare belt in the trunk. thanks.

10-29-2013, 08:05 PM	#1
Ikmv Deer Whisperer Drives: 2011 SGM 1LT/RS IPF Supercharged Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Suffolk, NY Posts: 76	So uhm about those pulleys... Yeah....sitting here waiting for tow truck. Same one I think as Johnny that seized the V3 pulley spins and so is the middle one but the other one is "stuck". Belt was wrapped around the steering wheel hose and I think tore it cause there is fluid all over the underside....Stupid me thought it wouldn't happen to me till they sent me ones... Any one have andy's phone #? Attached Images

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10-29-2013, 08:54 PM	#6
sycraft COTW 5/06/2013 Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport-Ho-Vette Join Date: May 2012 Location: Milford, Michigan Posts: 3,201 View My Garage	Get Hybrid Ceramic bearings from Boca Bearings and be done with it....they press out and in after a snap ring is removed... They will last longer than the ones IPF is upgrading to. They are sealed and run cool and long. Just pulled mine after 7500 miles to inspect, absolutely perfect.... __________________ 2017 Grand Sport, Borla X Pipe.....Enough Said

10-29-2013, 09:22 PM	#8
sycraft COTW 5/06/2013 Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport-Ho-Vette Join Date: May 2012 Location: Milford, Michigan Posts: 3,201 View My Garage	There should be a number on the bearing, go here http://www.bocabearings.com/dropin.a...d-Bearings.txt Call them and get 4 sealed , hybrid ceramic bearings with synthetic cages. They are not cheap, about 60 bucks each... I think the size is a 6003 http://www.bocabearings.com/bearing-...2YSTH9C3BK5NB2 __________________ 2017 Grand Sport, Borla X Pipe.....Enough Said

10-29-2013, 08:17 PM	#3
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	PM sent. Let me know if I can help. Let me guess, you didn't put the stock belt, 1/2" breaker bar with extension and an 8mm Allen wrench in your car, did ya? If you did, you could be driving right now. You may have had the power steering hose get knocked off. If so, easy fix. Hopefully it didn't break a pressure line, but rather the return line. John B.

10-29-2013, 08:26 PM	#4
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	Fear not, they'll make it right, as they're a straight up great company. Tell Andy you need a new belt and he'll make sure you get that as well. Not sure, but they may be on back order on the bearings. Did you call GM Roadside Assistance? That's all free n stuff. John B.

10-29-2013, 09:07 PM	#7
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	Sycraft, help these guys out. How about a link and a price? Details have been pretty scarce except for you mentioning them here and there. Just out of curiosity, how do you inspect sealed bearings? John B.

10-29-2013, 09:40 PM	#10
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	Wow, for that price I think I'll take my chances with their German replacements. Sycraft, have you had a look at the new ones to compare? With my stock belt and tools in the trunk of course, I know I can get mine home now. John B.

10-30-2013, 11:48 AM	#11
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	lkmv, any update? John B.

10-30-2013, 12:52 PM	#12
Ikmv Deer Whisperer Drives: 2011 SGM 1LT/RS IPF Supercharged Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Suffolk, NY Posts: 76	I have given my information and what not to the. When your's seized up did the other pulley need to be replaced? mines is gunked up with the rubber from the belt the other one, but it can still spin.

10-30-2013, 01:43 PM	#13
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	The belt gunk just wipes right off with a little effort. The pulley themselves do not get replaced, just the bearings. You will want to replace all four bearings, which covers both pulleys. Since the replacements are from a different manufacturer, you'd certainly want to get those old ones out of there. Remove both pulleys. There are black spacers installed on both sides of the pulleys. Remove the four spacers. Now, you'll see the bearings. You'll have to press those out and press the new ones in. If you don't know how, have a machine shop do it and then have the machine shop press the spacers back into place. To replace the belt, you'll have to unbolt the front half of the supercharger from the rear bracket. It's all done with Allen head fasteners and is pretty easy. I undid my intake and discharge hoses, but later saw that I probably didn't even need to do that since they are flexible enough to move enough to allow you to slip the belt into place. Refer to the installation instructions to route the belt correctly and then bolt everything back together, reinstalling the idler pulleys in the process. If you stare at the whole thing long enough before you start, you'll see which bolts need to come out and go back in; I think it's only five bolts plus the pulleys themselves. Not too bad. If you need to drive in the meantime, reinstall your stock belt (routing is in your owner's manual). It will run just fine. Let me know if you get stuck and I'll try to help. John B.

10-30-2013, 02:10 PM	#14
Sikoriko Drives: 2011 V6 IOM Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,385 View My Garage	I have over 13000 on the original bearings. now they are starting to make some noise. But the wait is like 14 weeks. when I called two weeks ago. 12 now. time to put the 1/2" ratchet and spare belt in the trunk. thanks.