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hypoxic · 03-02-2012, 03:04 PM

"All Camaro ZL1 models produced to date are currently being held by General Motors for a quality assessment." --Russell M. Clark

OK, what does this mean?

I hope it's QC, I'll be anticipating a near perfect car.

Is there an issue? GM be transparent and let me know what it is. I won't bail out. You will actually make me more loyal and I will appreciate your efforts to correct it. I'm a car guy. That's why I ordered a ZL1 in the first place!

Or is it mass saturation day when a thousand new ZL1's hit the street at the same time? Cool but unlikely.

At nearly 70k with taxes I would like to know what's up.

Blueclyde · 03-02-2012, 03:17 PM

Brand new model. Launch process underway. Commence shipment to commerce gate has not been passed. Lots of activity I am sure. CTF cars being driven. CTF drivers issues weekly reports. Product team accumulated and reviewing a ton of data. CTF issues being examined and analyzed. Cars from initial builds being reviewed. Processes being examined. All efforts being made to make sure the vehicles are correct prior to shipping to customers, because that's what we expect.

This is a completely normal launch procedure and everybody with one on order just needs to be patient. GM doesn't owe us anyhting. They will delvier the totally awesome car we are all expecting. They haven't broken a single promise and really owe us nothing at this point. Let's all be patient.

Happy_Dan · 03-02-2012, 03:31 PM

Making sure that quality is job 1. That comment is made by many, but GM is proving it. I am confident that when I get my car, it will be right!

I can't wait to read the posts when people start getting them! It will be fun to read and experience what they are feeling.

THR ZL1 #1 · 03-02-2012, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueclyde

They will delvier the totally awesome car we are all expecting. They haven't broken a single promise and really owe us nothing at this point. Let's all be patient.

Exactly!

HDRDTD · 03-02-2012, 03:38 PM

I went thru all this waiting last year this time when I ordered my Vert.
The Vert was built 3-22-11, left the plant two days later and just sat in a lot there in Oshawa.
No matter who I talked to or who the dealer talked to, NOBODY would give us a clear answer why the car had been sitting for 4 weeks. If they had just told me to be patient that it was part of the QC process (like it is for the ZL1), then i'd be glad to wait some more.

I finally got fed up with not getting an answer, and asked the dealer for my deposit back. Becky did a search and found a very similar car that had just come in to another local dealer. I took a ride over, looked at the car and bought it.

Of course I discovered that my original Vert left the plant grounds the very next day.

actireman · 03-02-2012, 03:45 PM

My kids and I waited an hour and forty five minutes to eat at the Cheesecake Factory this weekend. When my son took the first bite of his filet, he smiled and said "dad, I don't even remember waiting so long now". Our ZL1's will be the same.

JoshBobGuptaMarley · 03-02-2012, 05:59 PM

I have had two 2012 camaros...both had small imperfections in either the paint or interior. Both my cars came with scratches on the speedo/rpm plastic gauge cover. They probably will not be letting zl1s be delivered like that. I had the other plastic gauge cover fixed on the first car under warranty. On my 2ss I just said screw it I can live with it...

Coolidge · 03-02-2012, 06:08 PM

Gentlemen, rush a 580HP super charged track car out the door with Ford waiting in the wings to bash any little thing wrong with it = bad idea. Just my 2 cents worth.

mitchell87 · 03-02-2012, 06:20 PM

They have already produced X amount of saleable ZL1s correct? and those cars are sitting in Oshawa correct? And now they are going through QC? So say they find something, do they have to re-do all of the cars they already produced? Do they crush the cars already made, or will there be two VIN numbers for the first few cars produced?

htron50 · 03-02-2012, 09:40 PM

Man.. did you see that the rear 14 bolt differential weighs 200 more lbs than the SS differential? And the axles are stronger than the 3500HD truck axles.

This is ONE beastly machine.

I'm gonna have to grow a beard or it's gonna make me look puny.

Orange Krate · 03-02-2012, 09:42 PM

I would say something but I am very afraid one of the infamous black Suburbans would run over me. LOL Sometimes its good to be Sgt. Schultz. "I HEAR AND SEE NUSSING!!!"

thespymaster · 03-02-2012, 11:34 PM

I rather wait knowing GM and Camaro Team are 100% about the release of ZL1 than to get it and be grounded due to a fault not caught and have to wait to get it repaired!

They realize as we all have, the $$$ cost us consumers are paying is the must ever for a factory produced Camaro and keeping in Oshawa to cross the T's and dot the Is well worth the wait

mitchell87 · 03-03-2012, 09:28 AM

I wonder if it has something to do with the tires and the cold?

bbboomer54 · 03-03-2012, 09:49 AM

Will the next batch get the same scrutiny? While I don't like the waiting period I do want the same attention to detail.

03-02-2012, 05:59 PM	#7
JoshBobGuptaMarley Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: '12 2SS/RS LS3 GBA Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: PanamaCityBeach,Florida Posts: 1,375 View My Garage	I have had two 2012 camaros...both had small imperfections in either the paint or interior. Both my cars came with scratches on the speedo/rpm plastic gauge cover. They probably will not be letting zl1s be delivered like that. I had the other plastic gauge cover fixed on the first car under warranty. On my 2ss I just said screw it I can live with it... __________________ Muffler Delete, Cold Air Inductions intake, Technostalgia Sequential LED Tail Lights, Vmax CNC Ported TB, RX Catch Can, AAC LED Interior Lights (Aqua)

03-02-2012, 09:42 PM	#11
Orange Krate Not just any car! Drives: Orange Krate DOB - 11/22/2010 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 1,848	I would say something but I am very afraid one of the infamous black Suburbans would run over me. LOL Sometimes its good to be Sgt. Schultz. "I HEAR AND SEE NUSSING!!!" __________________ Simi Valley, CA email: orangekrate2011@yahoo.com

03-02-2012, 11:34 PM	#12
thespymaster Drives: C7 / ZL1 / SS / trucsk Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: G4 CLASSIFIED Posts: 4,533 View My Garage	I rather wait knowing GM and Camaro Team are 100% about the release of ZL1 than to get it and be grounded due to a fault not caught and have to wait to get it repaired! They realize as we all have, the $$$ cost us consumers are paying is the must ever for a factory produced Camaro and keeping in Oshawa to cross the T's and dot the Is well worth the wait __________________ 2014 C7 Stingray 3LT/Z51 2013 Camaro SS 2012 Camaro ZL1 - 850 HP 2015 GMC Denali 3500HD 4x4 2012 GMC Sierra 3500HD 4x4

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03-02-2012, 03:04 PM	#1
hypoxic Drives: '12 ZL1 CRT Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 39	GM: Throw me a bone! "All Camaro ZL1 models produced to date are currently being held by General Motors for a quality assessment." --Russell M. Clark OK, what does this mean? I hope it's QC, I'll be anticipating a near perfect car. Is there an issue? GM be transparent and let me know what it is. I won't bail out. You will actually make me more loyal and I will appreciate your efforts to correct it. I'm a car guy. That's why I ordered a ZL1 in the first place! Or is it mass saturation day when a thousand new ZL1's hit the street at the same time? Cool but unlikely. At nearly 70k with taxes I would like to know what's up.

03-02-2012, 03:17 PM	#2
Blueclyde Drives: 2023 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,717	Brand new model. Launch process underway. Commence shipment to commerce gate has not been passed. Lots of activity I am sure. CTF cars being driven. CTF drivers issues weekly reports. Product team accumulated and reviewing a ton of data. CTF issues being examined and analyzed. Cars from initial builds being reviewed. Processes being examined. All efforts being made to make sure the vehicles are correct prior to shipping to customers, because that's what we expect. This is a completely normal launch procedure and everybody with one on order just needs to be patient. GM doesn't owe us anyhting. They will delvier the totally awesome car we are all expecting. They haven't broken a single promise and really owe us nothing at this point. Let's all be patient.

03-02-2012, 03:31 PM	#3
Happy_Dan Happy_Dan Drives: 2012 IOM Camaro ZL1 #569 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New Boston, NH Posts: 2,239	Making sure that quality is job 1. That comment is made by many, but GM is proving it. I am confident that when I get my car, it will be right! I can't wait to read the posts when people start getting them! It will be fun to read and experience what they are feeling.

03-02-2012, 03:38 PM	#5
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	I went thru all this waiting last year this time when I ordered my Vert. The Vert was built 3-22-11, left the plant two days later and just sat in a lot there in Oshawa. No matter who I talked to or who the dealer talked to, NOBODY would give us a clear answer why the car had been sitting for 4 weeks. If they had just told me to be patient that it was part of the QC process (like it is for the ZL1), then i'd be glad to wait some more. I finally got fed up with not getting an answer, and asked the dealer for my deposit back. Becky did a search and found a very similar car that had just come in to another local dealer. I took a ride over, looked at the car and bought it. Of course I discovered that my original Vert left the plant grounds the very next day.

03-02-2012, 03:45 PM	#6
actireman Drives: 2011 denali hd2500 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: clarkston, mi Posts: 186	My kids and I waited an hour and forty five minutes to eat at the Cheesecake Factory this weekend. When my son took the first bite of his filet, he smiled and said "dad, I don't even remember waiting so long now". Our ZL1's will be the same.

03-02-2012, 06:08 PM	#8
Coolidge Drives: Dodge 4x4 Hemi Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 134	Gentlemen, rush a 580HP super charged track car out the door with Ford waiting in the wings to bash any little thing wrong with it = bad idea. Just my 2 cents worth.

03-02-2012, 06:20 PM	#9
mitchell87 Drives: 2010 Silverado 6.2L Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bismrarck, ND Posts: 196	They have already produced X amount of saleable ZL1s correct? and those cars are sitting in Oshawa correct? And now they are going through QC? So say they find something, do they have to re-do all of the cars they already produced? Do they crush the cars already made, or will there be two VIN numbers for the first few cars produced?

03-02-2012, 09:40 PM	#10
htron50 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Status "Thank You!" Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,498	Man.. did you see that the rear 14 bolt differential weighs 200 more lbs than the SS differential? And the axles are stronger than the 3500HD truck axles. This is ONE beastly machine. I'm gonna have to grow a beard or it's gonna make me look puny.

03-03-2012, 09:28 AM	#13
mitchell87 Drives: 2010 Silverado 6.2L Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bismrarck, ND Posts: 196	I wonder if it has something to do with the tires and the cold?

03-03-2012, 09:49 AM	#14
bbboomer54 Drives: Loving my ZL1 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 76 View My Garage	Will the next batch get the same scrutiny? While I don't like the waiting period I do want the same attention to detail.