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kismyss · 03-25-2010, 11:03 PM

What is the difference between Hotchkis, Pfadt or Eibach when it comes to Springs and Swaybars

. I am trying to learn all I can and the Hotchkis and Pfadt are so much more expensive. Is the Torq stronger? Whats the Deal or is it Name Brand. Get Eibach Pro Kit with springs and bars for 480 or Hotchskis for $750. Whats the Freakin Deal?

PfadtRacing · 03-26-2010, 12:22 PM

Hi kismyss,

Thank you for considering our products. I wanted to answer you in regards to your question of justifying the added cost of our Pfadt products over the competition. Just a couple thoughts:

You are going to see a noticeable performance handling difference, no matter which company you go with. There are a couple of reasons why our products are more expensive. We have gone though a number of iterations of the front and rear sway bar design. What we sell now is the culmination of research and testing to formulate what we believe to be the perfect front/rear roll reduction rate. Not only that, but the adjustable positions in our rear bar is engineered to suit future upgrades and still maintain the balance you require.

The manufacturing process that we use on our swaybars is more precise than some other companies. We use billet machined ends, welded in for this very reason. Our rear bar is hollow as well, which also increases overall cost during development.

Our spring development also, has been a long process to get the right drop, with the perfect increase in spring rate to suit the Camaro's handling. Our drop springs provide the lowest on the market, while still maintaing the travel requirements of the Camaro suspension.

The geometry difference between our bars, and competitors is also substantial. This again, adds to the cost. We did not just copy the OEM geometry. We designed our own bars, from a clean sheet of paper, and this took a lot of development. This is why Pfadt Race Engineering feels it supplies the best possible spring/swaybar package on the market for the 5th generation Camaro.

Take a look at some other Camaro5 members comments on the board, and you will get a good feel for what people are saying positive about all the companies that make suspension kits.

Again, we do thank you for considering our products. It is not always clear why one component cost more than another. Most of it is in the details. We just wanted to weigh-in on what advantages our products provide. Thank you!

And if you haven't seen it already, take a look at the video in this thread that we put together highlighting our spring/swaybar package, and our testing. Its is short, but says a lot: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67900

Thank you!

*radz28* · 03-26-2010, 12:28 PM

You guys provide many of the best videos of your products - period. Kudos.

kismyss · 03-28-2010, 11:42 PM

So How Much For the Springs and Sways?

PfadtRacing · 03-29-2010, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kismyss

So How Much For the Springs and Sways?

PM sent! Thank you for your inquiry!

PfadtRacing · 03-29-2010, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz282003

You guys provide many of the best videos of your products - period. Kudos.

Thanks for the compliments! We appreciate it, and hope to continue with videos!

JusticePete · 03-29-2010, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kismyss

What is the difference between Hotchkis, Pfadt or Eibach when it comes to Springs and Swaybars

. I am trying to learn all I can and the Hotchkis and Pfadt are so much more expensive. Is the Torq stronger? Whats the Deal or is it Name Brand. Get Eibach Pro Kit with springs and bars for 480 or Hotchskis for $750. Whats the Freakin Deal?

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=sway+bars

03-25-2010, 11:03 PM	#1
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03-26-2010, 12:22 PM	#2
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	Hi kismyss, Thank you for considering our products. I wanted to answer you in regards to your question of justifying the added cost of our Pfadt products over the competition. Just a couple thoughts: You are going to see a noticeable performance handling difference, no matter which company you go with. There are a couple of reasons why our products are more expensive. We have gone though a number of iterations of the front and rear sway bar design. What we sell now is the culmination of research and testing to formulate what we believe to be the perfect front/rear roll reduction rate. Not only that, but the adjustable positions in our rear bar is engineered to suit future upgrades and still maintain the balance you require. The manufacturing process that we use on our swaybars is more precise than some other companies. We use billet machined ends, welded in for this very reason. Our rear bar is hollow as well, which also increases overall cost during development. Our spring development also, has been a long process to get the right drop, with the perfect increase in spring rate to suit the Camaro's handling. Our drop springs provide the lowest on the market, while still maintaing the travel requirements of the Camaro suspension. The geometry difference between our bars, and competitors is also substantial. This again, adds to the cost. We did not just copy the OEM geometry. We designed our own bars, from a clean sheet of paper, and this took a lot of development. This is why Pfadt Race Engineering feels it supplies the best possible spring/swaybar package on the market for the 5th generation Camaro. Take a look at some other Camaro5 members comments on the board, and you will get a good feel for what people are saying positive about all the companies that make suspension kits. Again, we do thank you for considering our products. It is not always clear why one component cost more than another. Most of it is in the details. We just wanted to weigh-in on what advantages our products provide. Thank you! And if you haven't seen it already, take a look at the video in this thread that we put together highlighting our spring/swaybar package, and our testing. Its is short, but says a lot: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67900 Thank you!

03-28-2010, 11:42 PM	#4
kismyss Drives: CGM 2SS Roto-Fab CAI, Mach XL CAT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cypress TX Posts: 251	So How Much For the Springs and Sways?