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you will come across a number for GM marketing - you can call that number tell them what you want they will find you one thats sitting in a lot or in transit... all over the states... i called them and the guy was able to find 3 cars in the states that were close to my build... but i was already at 2000... good luck... sorry i didnt read your entire post...
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09-14-2009, 06:30 PM | #16 |
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Don't know if you want to reach out to a distant dealer for help. If so, try calling Rich Anson (Fleet Sales Mgr of Go Chevrolet in Denver). He has ben great for me to work with. I decided to order mine on Friday, have my order number today.
I have no idea if he can help you with an order and a "drop ship", but if there is a way he would certainly let you know. And you could probably get him to help you with something a little under MSRP if you say please.
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09-14-2009, 07:27 PM | #18 |
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Also loosing faith ...
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09-14-2009, 08:01 PM | #19 |
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been there man... still there... but doing p90x to save my sanity... or if you wanna look at it... using p90x to kill me before my sanity runs out
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09-14-2009, 09:28 PM | #21 |
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It's not really the wait that is getting me, it is the lack of movement. I totally get that the factory is backlogged, but where I have an issue is that there are many people who have been waiting for quite some time and people who have ordered their cars later are getting build dates faster. Now I understand the concept of allocation, but it really seems ridiculous to me, as a consumer, I shouldn't have to run around to find a dealership that can place my order faster, it should be the same regardless of what dealership I order from. GM should be happy that we want to do business with them and produce our orders in the order that they were placed. If they need to take care of a big corporate client such as Avis first, then so be it, I can wait for that, but I don't want to wait for someone's car to be produced ahead of mine that ordered 2 months after me. It seems like GM is punishing the dealerships that sell more cars and punishing the consumer for being unaware that this is the way that they run their business. I can see why GM is in trouble as a corporation and unless they change their ways, they don't have a hope in hell of making it. I will patiently wait for my Camaro as all of you have because I love the car, but I will seriously think about giving GM any extra business simply because of the way they run their business. Which is really a shame, because the people that work there at the dealership, customer service and factory have all been great and are doing their best. It really not their fault that this system is in place, they are just set up for failure.
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09-14-2009, 09:57 PM | #22 | |
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You can't fault a company for making a good product. Blaming them for not getting something to you fast enough ignores the fact that everyone else wants the same thing, and no one can get it fast enough. If you do Christmas shopping, then you know how the day after Thanksgiving is at Best Buy. Try getting that new TomTom. Do you blame TomTom for not making enough? Do you blame Best Buy for not ordering enough? I'll be you kick the sidewalk and blame yourself for not getting there soon enough to place your order. At the same time you're wishing there were a TomTom in that Best Buy, several miles away a surplus of the same product exists. A bunch of buyers left the TomToms for Magellan units. Their allocation of TomToms turned out to be too high, and your store had too few. Unless you go to that store, you'll never know better. Why should buying a car be any different? You've got to shop for the best place for you. You need to check every dealer for the best price and inventory. You could be the one and only Camaro order at one dealer or the fiftieth order at another. You need to find out which allocation is going to arrive first. GM isn't stupid. They don't give one car to every dealer at the same time. Some dealers get a lot more because they have a history of selling sports cars faster. If you were a gambler, I doubt you'd be betting on the horse in the back every race or the team that's had a losing record every year. GM is the same way. GM has to base its decisions to distribute based upon whether this dealer sells Corvettes or Cobalts faster or where they are located or how many Camaros sold in 2002. There are a lot of possible ways to slice the allocation equation, but the end of it is that it is a carefully evaluated equation based upon 100 years of selling cars to people who desperately want to drive the next GM vessel. They've been doing it forever, and no one is ever happy until it arrives. Here's another example. Think about the last time you hit the grocery store. Is it fair that the guy in lane 7 who stood in a line of 10 people got out of the store faster than the guy in lane 3 who stood in a line of 5? Is it anyone's fault, other than Microsoft or IBM, that the lane 3 register crashed? Sometimes, the other guy is a faster checkout guy, and you didn't know going into business with some other checkout guy. Sometimes, your bagger is just slow, or the guy in line before you had to use exact change. Sometimes, circumstances out of anyone's control shuffle what should be the simple, straight line that we all wish was the way that everything could work. When we wait for a car, this is amplified because we aren't waiting for 3 minutes for some jackass to count pennies. Instead, we're waiting for weeks in line for any given car; and then, some company we all know and love makes a hit, and those tormenting weeks of waiting for that new car smell to be on our coats as we cruise on the highway in our new method of transportation expand to months as the demand piles up and the line grows in front of us. It is hard to be patient when that line is so long, but somehow we manage. I like to think back to those lines at Six Flags when I was young and wanting to ride The Ninja. That roller coaster was a hit, and it had all the flips and swirls and sheer velocity every great ride does. It was long, and so was the line, but no line stopped you from loving the ride when you got inside. The Camaro is the ride, and the line is long for it, but was the line ever short for anything this good? Yes—despite all my long sentences, there is a bottom line. Eventually everyone gets the car they wanted. It's a high-demand product, and you've got to wait for it. If you didn't have to wait, then it might not be a hit, which might mean it wasn't so great, which might mean you might not like it when it comes. It is worth the wait, and you know it is because none of those guys in front of you left the line because they know how big a hit it is because they are behind some other driver who could be on this very forum starting a thread not unlike this one about how allocation sucks and they should have their car by now. We should all have a car by now that we love to drive, but many of us are not so lucky, and those of us who are truly know how lucky they are because they remember the long wait. This wait sucks. We all know, and I won't even tell you that you'll forget when the car arrives. Instead, you'll remember how long and hard it has been for all of us, since 2003, thinking we'll never see one again. It's back, and so many of us have been waiting since then for the day to come that we drive another new Camaro. If you think your wait is tough, think of those guys who wanted it the day before you and someone managed to be behind you in line. It's harder for them. Keep the faith. It's here, and yours is coming soon.
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Smartest thing you've said. I couldn't agree more. Many dealers are super (although some are just downright embarrassing to deal with. Some employees - even managers - are quite stupid). Customer Service reps are usually pretty good. The DBC reps are usually pretty good (not that you've ever dealt with them). They ARE set up for failure, but its not GM thats doing the setting up. Look, I know I sound like a jerk in some parts of this, but the bottom line is this is the way it is. It's not changing unless the federal regulators that instituted allocation change their mind. No amount of people complaining or me explaining is going to change anything. No amount of "this is why GM is failing" is going to prove anything. This is in NO WAY related to why GM was failing as an enterprise. Those reasons are a conversation for another day or another place. GM is not losing money or business on the 2010 Camaro |
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Wow can of beans! If I have insulted anyone, I apologize, that was not my intention. If this allocation system is what is required by law, then I apologize for spouting my rhetoric at General Motors and project it to the body of government that has made it that way. I expressed my dissatisfaction with the process, not the people who attempt to manage the process.
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09-15-2009, 06:08 AM | #25 |
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Cracks me up when people say it's the law to use allocations ..... LOL..... Then they turn around and say one of the things it's based on it the competitions sales in the area...... Get your story straight .... LOL...... You can't have it both ways.... And it's about the dealer not about the customer, and that's wrong !!! Gm needs to regroup about this whole allocation thing they came up with....
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I am in north Florida about 4 hours from Pennsacola and we have had a new Camaro placed every month. I just sold our last Camaro SS for supplier. Pete Moore offered to buy ours for $5000 over sticker but we wanted to retail them so we could get more. I would be willing to order one for you I cant say that the Usaa discount would still be there but I am sureI could work something out. Email me if you would like to try and sorry about the bad experience so far.
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09-15-2009, 10:25 AM | #27 |
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My thoughts exactly, if GM wants to base their extra inventory on allocation, it makes sense. An order is an order and should be dealt with first come first serve. And speaking of analogies; If you went to a restaurant and ordered, waited for your food and another group came an hour after you and got their food before you, you would be irritated to say the least. Especially if you were told the reason was because the server had surpassed their allocation and you would have to wait for it to open up before you could get your food. Just because it has always been that way doesn't mean that it is right or less irritating.
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All these things are true and are not mutually exclusive. You say "Cracks me up when people say it's the law to use allocations ..... Then they turn around and say one of the things it's based on it the competitions sales in the area" Yes, we do say that, SlingShot, because both are true. Why do you think it has to be one or the other? |
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