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pdiddy · 07-22-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

You need to put stock plugs back on your car and do a back to back comparison you will be amazed at what your missing with your FORD Plugs.

Past 1200

By stock you are refering to the ZL1 plug not the stock LS3 plug correct ?

Supercharged Red · 07-22-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SS45th

They are AC Delcos, 41-104 is the number I think.

Thanks!!

se7en · 07-22-2013, 03:51 PM

Ted, are you saying i could the ZL1 plug for driving around on the street, Dragstrip with 93-104 octane without NOS and 150 shot on the strip with race fuel and be fine to go back to driving on the street without changing plugs..... if my tune is setup for that correct?

JANNETTYRACING · 07-22-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pdiddy

By stock you are refering to the ZL1 plug not the stock LS3 plug correct ?

Missed the parts about the Maggie in your Signature Yes ZR-1 plugs which is the same as ZL-1 Plugs

JANNETTYRACING · 07-22-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by se7en

Ted, are you saying i could the ZL1 plug for driving around on the street, Dragstrip with 93-104 octane without NOS and 150 shot on the strip with race fuel and be fine to go back to driving on the street without changing plugs..... if my tune is setup for that correct?

Yes it is all in the Tune.

Ted.

se7en · 07-22-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Yes it is all in the Tune.

Ted.

Thank ya sir... hopefully Mike will figure it out cause its becoming a pain changing plugs every time at the track. Looks like ive been in a fight with the cat with all the scratches on my hands from changing them. Plus the risk of messing one up by being in a hurry

dan0617 · 07-22-2013, 04:02 PM

Ted, I know the plug doesn't control combustion temps. But won't I be borderline on turning the projected tip plug into a detonation hazard in the combustion chamber with nitrous and boost and pump gas and no meth and a fairly high dynamic compression ratio of a stock cammed L99?

JANNETTYRACING · 07-22-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dan0617

Ted, I know the plug doesn't control combustion temps. But won't I be borderline on turning the projected tip plug into a detonation hazard in the combustion chamber with nitrous and boost and pump gas and no meth and a fairly high dynamic compression ratio of a stock cammed L99?

The only way to tell is READ YOUR PLUGS and Adjust your tune up accordingly.

Ted.

pdiddy · 07-22-2013, 04:58 PM

Just to confirm the zl1 and zr1 plug is the same plug does anyone have a part number

Rhino79 · 07-22-2013, 05:10 PM

You can get away with a projected tip on FI, but on nitrous I can tell you for a fact that the zr1 plug is too hot for a cammed/nitrous setup. I tried them with a 150 shot with up to 8* of timing pulled out. Still too hot. On my motor setup they are perfect though. I run the BR7EF plugs on the giggly juice.

Every setup is different, gotta read the plugs to know what the engine wants. It you have a 10 lb setup on boost and you are having to pull timing down really low to make it work, the plug is too hot. Sure the hotter plugs drive and idle better, but Ill take a little more safety with my setup.

pdiddy · 07-22-2013, 05:49 PM

i want to get this straight so the people that are running ngk tr6 are you running the tr6ix or just thr tr6 I am not running the irredium just the tr6 4177 as this is what I was told to run by my tunner I was just curious if this is the same plug that many others are running and aside from the zr1 ac delco plugs

Rhino79 · 07-22-2013, 05:52 PM

A lot of people run the tr6 plugs, tr6ix is just the iridium version.

Detoxx03 · 07-22-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhino79

You can get away with a projected tip on FI, but on nitrous I can tell you for a fact that the zr1 plug is too hot for a cammed/nitrous setup. I tried them with a 150 shot with up to 8* of timing pulled out. Still too hot. On my motor setup they are perfect though. I run the BR7EF plugs on the giggly juice.

Every setup is different, gotta read the plugs to know what the engine wants. It you have a 10 lb setup on boost and you are having to pull timing down really low to make it work, the plug is too hot. Sure the hotter plugs drive and idle better, but Ill take a little more safety with my setup.

Exactly. I'll stick to running the correct plug for my setup. I run non-projected tip plugs and haven't ran a regular plug since my trans am was n/a 7 years ago.

pdiddy · 07-22-2013, 06:05 PM

k thought thats what people where doing but then people started dropping the ix in there and lost me

I am not going to switch mine to the zl1 or ix as I have been pretty happy with the tr6 so far

07-22-2013, 04:02 PM	#63
dan0617 Drives: 2011 Inferno Orange SS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tyrone, PA Posts: 640 View My Garage	Ted, I know the plug doesn't control combustion temps. But won't I be borderline on turning the projected tip plug into a detonation hazard in the combustion chamber with nitrous and boost and pump gas and no meth and a fairly high dynamic compression ratio of a stock cammed L99? __________________ 2011 SS IOM Vert. ECS Vortech 13+ psi, Water/Meth, ID850’s, ZL1 pump with MSD Voltage Booster, 2800 stall, LT headers, Drag radials, Drag alignment, Cradle Bushings. A million other supporting mods. Tuned by Ted.

07-22-2013, 04:58 PM	#65
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	Just to confirm the zl1 and zr1 plug is the same plug does anyone have a part number __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

07-22-2013, 05:49 PM	#67
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	i want to get this straight so the people that are running ngk tr6 are you running the tr6ix or just thr tr6 I am not running the irredium just the tr6 4177 as this is what I was told to run by my tunner I was just curious if this is the same plug that many others are running and aside from the zr1 ac delco plugs __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

07-22-2013, 06:05 PM	#70
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	k thought thats what people where doing but then people started dropping the ix in there and lost me I am not going to switch mine to the zl1 or ix as I have been pretty happy with the tr6 so far __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

07-22-2013, 03:51 PM	#59
se7en Drives: 10 Procharged SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The creek at the end of the dead end road Posts: 1,857	Ted, are you saying i could the ZL1 plug for driving around on the street, Dragstrip with 93-104 octane without NOS and 150 shot on the strip with race fuel and be fine to go back to driving on the street without changing plugs..... if my tune is setup for that correct?

07-22-2013, 05:10 PM	#66
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	You can get away with a projected tip on FI, but on nitrous I can tell you for a fact that the zr1 plug is too hot for a cammed/nitrous setup. I tried them with a 150 shot with up to 8* of timing pulled out. Still too hot. On my motor setup they are perfect though. I run the BR7EF plugs on the giggly juice. Every setup is different, gotta read the plugs to know what the engine wants. It you have a 10 lb setup on boost and you are having to pull timing down really low to make it work, the plug is too hot. Sure the hotter plugs drive and idle better, but Ill take a little more safety with my setup.

07-22-2013, 05:52 PM	#68
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	A lot of people run the tr6 plugs, tr6ix is just the iridium version.