New CAFE Standards: 42 MPG Cars, 26 MPG Trucks by 2016

[comiskeybum]

wow 26mpg trucks.........thats gonna be hard

[AZCamaroFan]

Two options.
1. buy a great car before the car appocalypse and learn to repair it for decades to come.
2. Walk

[Morepwr]

Thats going to be very hard to achieve. People are pretty used to having all the luxury items on new cars. If they want more MPG, then they are going to have to shed some serious weight. So you get a econobox with power nothing.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by comiskeybum

wow 26mpg trucks.........thats gonna be hard

The CAFE "truck" category includes these:



Stick a flat load floor in any hatchback and suddenly you have a "truck" that's EPA rated 35mpg and CAFE rated 55mpg to offset my next GMC Sierra. Piece of cake. Bonus: It's far more marketable as an SUV than it is as a hatchback car.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by Morepwr

Thats going to be very hard to achieve. People are pretty used to having all the luxury items on new cars. If they want more MPG, then they are going to have to shed some serious weight. So you get a econobox with power nothing.

The luxury items aren't what add up to all that weight. It's the big engines and transmissions, bulletproof frames that last 20 years in New England without rotting, large quantities of safety reinforcement (which nobody will ever ask them to remove), big wheels/tires with requisite suspension, and generally large size.

Weight doesn't have to be reduced to increase MPG, though. There's usually room for improvement in gearing, though GM's automatics tend to be geared for fuel economy. There's loads of room for aerodynamic improvement in modern cars; every car has a big gaping airplow/parachute grille that is entirely for aesthetic purposes and unnecessary for even the most extreme cooling, for example.

[drivingincamaro]

I see alot of twin turbo v6s in the future

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by UsedTaHaveA68

Looks like we'll be buying a lot more diesels...

Seriously, 7 years to get 15mpg more? That's asking a little much isn't it?

That's because politicions don't know jack about what they are talking about. Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, and oh by the way. While your adding all that weight we would like you to increase your miles per gallon by 40-50%. Thanks, oh, and if you could also come in sunday that would be great.

[AZCamaroFan]

The politicians don't have to worry about it being hard to achieve. They can just pass a law about something that they have no knowledge of. They're either career politicans, or there other job was Law.

[DMX]

Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

That's because politicions don't know jack about what they are talking about. Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, Safety, and oh by the way. While your adding all that weight we would like you to increase your miles per gallon by 40-50%. Thanks, oh, and if you could also come in sunday that would be great.

I'm with you 100%. The politicians just say "They need to get more mpgs...". They need to realize that in order to get more MPGs, you have to compromise on increasing safety standards. Because todays cars are extremely safe already and they are turning into weighed down bricks.

[Lakailb87]

I was hearing it was suppose to be set at a little less than 35.5 mpg. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=akvVufy0JRNs

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by DMX

I'm with you 100%. The politicians just say "They need to get more mpgs...". They need to realize that in order to get more MPGs, you have to compromise on increasing safety standards. Because todays cars are extremely safe already and they are turning into weighed down bricks.

I just remembered something. I totally forgot to add in all the "You can't do thats" Emissions, emissions, emissions!

[Master Chief]

Is there some way we can vote against this catastrophe?

[One Mean Chevy]

Originally Posted by theholycow

The CAFE "truck" category includes these:


Stick a flat load floor in any hatchback and suddenly you have a "truck" that's EPA rated 35mpg and CAFE rated 55mpg to offset my next GMC Sierra. Piece of cake. Bonus: It's far more marketable as an SUV than it is as a hatchback car.

If thats the case Clone and Mod the Volt to be classifed as a "Truck" say 80miles to the Gallon instead of 100 and GM is set.

I my book a truck is not a "Truck" unless its BOF, the Cab and Bed are Separate.


I think these numbers are over inflated.

Oh, Yeah Don't we already have budget short falls to repair worn out roads and Bridges because people are Driving Less and/or Riding Motorcycles.

[FxsX24]

good thing its not a emissions standards being raised, on a certain year motor they made it cleaner (as per epa) and lost MPGs