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Old 07-19-2013, 06:36 AM   #463
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USUALLY...just because it has a back seat, doesn't mean it's not a sports car. It fits every other point in that definition. I just think if you say the Camaro isn't a sports car, you shouldn't be allowed in the argument.
Here is a dictionary definition of muscle car:

: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

That fits. So you don't get to kick people out of the discussion.
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:42 AM   #464
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:59 AM   #465
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Here is a dictionary definition of muscle car:

: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

That fits. So you don't get to kick people out of the discussion.
Didn't kick anyone out, just voiced my opinion, like everyone else here. Some people think just because they own a Corvette or Camaro, they know everything about cars. Why don't you look up the dictionary definition for know it all!
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:17 AM   #466
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Here is a dictionary definition of muscle car:

: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

That fits. So you don't get to kick people out of the discussion.
I'm afraid that better fits a younger hotrodder's idea of what a sports car is. Too focused on the engine, not enough on overall balance.

The best I'll give you is that the Camaro and the Mustang are borderline sports cars (and at a bigger stretch I'll throw in the Challenger), but they still lack the nimbleness and driving "feel" that really defines what a sports car is.

In accepting the above as sports cars, you then have to accept the idea that the "sports car" spectrum is a lot wider than your car either being a sports car or not even close. No way are the above-mentioned ponycars at the same point of "sports car hardcore-ness" as the Miata, which in turn is a pretty weenie entry in comparison to a Lotus or Caterham 7 (Caterham being the official Lotus 7 continuation nameplate).

That also means that OP's new ride isn't as hardcore of a sports car as most folks now think. Time was when it was considered a "GT car".

The problem with blurring the lines that distinguish general categories of cars is that eventually the individual category names become meaningless. Would you accept a V6 Camry as a "muscle car" even though it'd put up a decent quarter mile fight against many of the 1960's original muscle?


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Old 07-19-2013, 07:34 AM   #467
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But us old timers usually consider only 2 seater performance cars as Sports cars.
Well I'm going to take the back seat out of my Camaro tonight so it can be a sports car tomorrow!
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:41 AM   #468
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Here is a dictionary definition of muscle car:

: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

That fits. So you don't get to kick people out of the discussion.
interesting. isn't coupe a car? so the definition of muscle car is American made sports "car"...
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:17 AM   #469
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USUALLY...just because it has a back seat, doesn't mean it's not a sports car. It fits every other point in that definition. I just think if you say the Camaro isn't a sports car, you shouldn't be allowed in the argument.
So anyone with a different opinion than you is not allowed in the argument?....
There has to be two sides to every argument or there would be no argument in the first place...
I just have a different opinion of what a real sports car is than you. That's all, no need to start telling anyone that they are not allowed to discuss it.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:24 AM   #470
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There has to be two sides to every argument or there would be no argument in the first place...
seems like a pretty simple concept
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:20 AM   #471
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:30 AM   #472
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Wow, I can't believe I just read through all 20 pages of this thread! What's wrong with me....lol
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:32 AM   #473
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Wow, I can't believe I just read through all 20 pages of this thread! What's wrong with me....lol
Nothing better to do I guess....
I think I am going to go get in my Camaro and drive around to see if I can get someone to wave at me...
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You know, I had skipped this thread for a number of days and being off work today thought I'd open it up to see what the fuss was about. It turned out to be kinda like a bad car wreck......just couldn't look away.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:39 AM   #475
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all Camaro owners should buy one of these



and do something like this, except on the drivers side window


with the wind, it should be waving. maybe the OP will buy another Camaro?
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