Z/28 OR SS VS 2011GT500

[Z/28orSs]

this is the first time i might have to take my hat off to a mustang
http://wot.motortrend.com/6647365/mo...nds/index.html

the first link shows a gt500 going throw VIR at 2.58.5 lap time. VIR is where car and driver holds its lighting lap. here are some #'s to compare this ultra fast time to

camaro 2010 3.09
bmw m3 2008 3.05
porsche gt3 911 3.01
vette z06 2007 2.58.02

does any esle smell bullshit or is this real?

[wbt]

I now own a GT500 and a SS. The GT500 is superior in every way from a performance standpoint.

I still love my Camaro and will enjoy it for many years.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Z/28orSs

this is the first time i might have to take my hat off to a mustang
http://wot.motortrend.com/6647365/mo...nds/index.html

the first link shows a gt500 going throw VIR at 2.58.5 lap time. VIR is where car and driver holds its lighting lap. here are some #'s to compare this ultra fast time to

camaro 2010 3.09
bmw m3 2008 3.05
porsche gt3 911 3.01
vette z06 2007 2.58.02

does any esle smell bullshit or is this real?

That 100lbs off the nose along with the upgraded suspension over the 2010 was worth almost a 3sec faster time for the 2011 all the while with only 10 more hp. pretty amazing!

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by motorhead

That 100lbs off the nose along with the upgraded suspension over the 2010 was worth almost a 3sec faster time for the 2011 all the while with only 10 more hp. pretty amazing!

3 seconds? Folks, that's 9 seconds faster than the 2010 GT500 did on the same course.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

3 seconds? Folks, that's 9 seconds faster than the 2010 GT500 did on the same course.

I would have to recheck both times then. Do you have them? I read in two different mags about the 2011 run that said it was 3 seconds faster at that track than the 2010 did. Just going off of what I read. I don't have the real numbers in front of me.


Edit: If that's right are you planning on a trade?

[fazm]

their aim was 3 seconds, but they got 9 lol

http://jalopnik.com/5541716/2011-she...w-track-record

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I would have to recheck both times then. Do you have them? I read in two different mags about the 2011 run that said it was 3 seconds faster at that track than the 2010 did. Just going off of what I read. I don't have the real numbers in front of me.


Edit: If that's right are you planning on a trade?

No upgrade for me. I rarely road race my car, so the difference between the 2010 and the 2011 really doesn't matter to me.

As for the time difference, here's another account which specifically mentions the 9 second improvement.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2011-for...nds-video.html

[THE EVIL TW1N]

wow the GT500 is a beast!

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

No upgrade for me. I rarely road race my car, so the difference between the 2010 and the 2011 really doesn't matter to me.

As for the time difference, here's another account which specifically mentions the 9 second improvement.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2011-for...nds-video.html

That's pretty amazing. I can't believe it's that much better though. I wonder if conditions were different or a different driver this time around. Hard to believe it would run with a Z06 that is a lot lighter and even though it has less HP.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

No upgrade for me. I rarely road race my car, so the difference between the 2010 and the 2011 really doesn't matter to me.

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That is refreshing to hear. I get so tired of people dumping what they have just because the new model has more power or whatever. My SS is badass and is the car I have always wanted. I don't care if a faster, better one comes out next year. This is my baby and I'm keeping her.

[VADER SS L99]

I dont see how it could get the same times as a Zo6. That just seems fishy to me. On the subject of the 2011 GT500 vs the upcoming Z28. Unless they figure out how to lose 200lbs from the Z28 or give it about 30 more hp I think its safe to say the Z28 will be at an disadvatage to the GT500 and not keep up with it. But hey I thought the new GT would be quicker than the SS and we all know how that turned out. We will just have to wait and see a heads up comparison. I do wish that GM will at least taget the GT500 as a neck and neck performance test. Having the SS weighing in at 4000lbs and 550hp will not get the job done me thinks.

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

wow the GT500 is a beast!

Hootchie Mama......

Originally Posted by motorhead

That's pretty amazing. I can't believe it's that much better though. I wonder if conditions were different or a different driver this time around. Hard to believe it would run with a Z06 that is a lot lighter and even though it has less HP.

Thing is, the VIR fast list is comprised of various drivers running on different days in different cars.......... so statistically it is possible but not probable that the '11 GT500 had the best driver, best weather, and best track conditions all coming together by chance on the same day.....

Pos Make / Model Time Year Power (hp) / Weight (kg) Driven by
1. Mosler MT 900S 2:45.9 (550bhp LS7) ´ 441 / 1100 Car&Driver
2. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 2:48.6 ´08 600 / 1536 Car&Driver
3. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2:51.8 ´08 647 / 1530 Mark gillies
4. KTM X-Bow 2:52.3 ´08 241 / 871 C/D
5. Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce 2:53.9 ´09 670 / 1764 Mark gillies
6. Ferrari 430 Scuderia 2:54.6 ´07 510 / 1402 Car&Driver
7. Nissan GT-R 2:55.6 ´08 479 / 1740 Car&Driver
8. Dodge Viper SRT-10 (600hp) 2:57.4 ´08 612 / 1567 Car and Driver
9. Ariel Atom 3 (300 hp) 2:57.6 ´08 300 / 456 Mark gillies
10. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2:58.2 ´05 513 / 1437.3 Car and Driver
11. Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport C6 2:58.8 ´10 442 / 1514 C/D
12. Shelby Mustang Cobra GT500 2:58:48 ´11 558 / 1720 Ford SVT
13. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Conv. 2:58:5 ´10 547 / 1758
14. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 2:59.5 ´09 525 / 1620 Dave vanderwerp
15. Ford GT 3:00.7 ´04 550 / 1538 Car and Driver
16. Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51 3:01.2 ´08 442 / 1459 Car&Driver
17. Dodge Viper SRT-10 3:01.6 ´05 506 / 1600 Car and Driver
18. Porsche 997 GT3 3:01.8 ´06 415 / 1395 Car and Driver
19. Chevrolet Corvette C6 3:03.6 ´04 400 / 1470
20. Cadillac CTS-V 3:04.0 ´09 564 / 1955 Car&Driver
21. Lotus Exige S 3:04.5 ´05 222 / 933 Car And Driver
22. Audi R8 3:04.6 ´06 420 / 1560 Car and Driver
23. Lotus Exige Cup 260 3:05 ´08 260 / 890 C/D
24. BMW M3 (E92) DKG 3:05.4 ´08 420 / 1639
25. Porsche 997 Turbo 3:05.8 ´06 480 / 1585 Car and Driver
26. Porsche 997 Carrera S (2008 facelift) 3:05.8 ´08 385 / 1425 Car and Driver
27. Porsche Cayman S(facelift) PDK 3:05.8 ´08 320 / 1375 Car and Driver
28. Shelby GT500 3:05.9 ´06 507 / 1807 Car and Driver
29. Jaguar XKR (510 bhp) 3:06.4 ´09 510 / 1865 C/D
30. Mercedes C 63 AMG 3:06.5 ´07 457 / 1772 Car&Driver
31. Shelby GT500 3:07.4 ´10 547 / 1767 C/D
32. Audi TT-S Coupe 3:08.4 ´08 272 / 1395 C/D
33. Lotus Elise S2 3:09.2 ´06 136 / 860 Car and Driver
34. Porsche Cayman S 3:09.5 ´05 295 / 1406 Car and Driver
35. Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 3:09.5 ´10 432 / 1750 C/D
36. BMW M6 3:10.0 ´05 507 / 1710 Car and Driver
37. BMW 335i Coupe 3:10.5 ´06 306 / 1610 Car and Driver
38. Audi S4 (B8) 3:10.8 ´09 333 / 1650 C/D
39. Audi RS4 (B7) 3:11.2 ´05 420 / 1720 Car and Driver
40. BMW Z4 M Roadster 3:11.7 ´06 343 / 1444 Car and Driver
41. Nissan Nismo 370Z 3:12.0 ´09 355 / 1500 C/D
42. Nissan 350Z (283bhp) 3:12.5 ´02 287 / 1532 Car and Driver
43. Chevrolet Cobalt SS/TC 3:13.0 ´08 260 / 1352 Car&Driver
44. Mitsubishi EVO X MR SST 3:13.3 ´08 299 / 1675 Car&Driver
45. Ford Mustang GT 3:13.3 ´10 319 / 1606 C/D
46. Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX 3:13.5 ´05 290 / 1482 Car and Driver
47. BMW 135i Coupe (E82) 3:13.7 ´07 306 / 1485 Car&Driver
48. Lexus IS F 3:14.0 ´07 423 / 1732 Car&Driver
49. Audi S5 3:14.6 ´07 354 / 1630 Car&Driver
50. Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track 3:14.8 ´09 310 / 1575 C/D
51. Pontiac Solstice GXP 3:15,7 ´06 264 / 1337 Car And Driver
52. Honda S2000 Type S 3:15.0 ´07 242 / 1270 Car&Driver
53. Mazda 3 MPS 3:16.0 ´06 260 / 1485 Car and Driver
54. Mazda 3 MPS (MK II) 3:16.2 ´09 260 / 1470 C/D
55. Dodge Challenger SRT-8 3:16.3 ´09 431 / 1904 Car&Driver
56. Lotus Elise SC 3:16.6 ´08 217 / 913 Car&Driver
57. Mini John Cooper Works 3:17.1 ´08 211 / 1130 C/D
58. Infiniti G37 Coupe 3:17.5 ´08 335 / 1710 Car&Driver
59. Dodge Charger SRT-8 3:18.2 ´05 431 / 1887 Car and Driver
60. Mazda RX-8 3:19.0 ´02 231 / 1400 Car and Driver
61. Subaru Impreza WRX STI (2.5l) 3:19.0 ´07 300 / 1527 Car&Driver
62. VW Golf GTI Mk. VI 3:19.3 ´09 211 / 1318 C/D
63. Chevrolet Cobalt SS 3:20.6 ´05 208 / 1273 Car and Driver
64. Dodge Caliber SRT4 3:20.8 ´08 288 / 1505 Car&Driver
65. Ford Mustang GT 3:20.9 ´04 300 / 1580 Car and Driver
66. VW Golf Mk V R32 3:21.8 ´05 247 / 1510 Car&Driver
67. Mini Cooper S (Mk II) 3:22.9 ´06 174 / 1206 Car and Driver
68. Honda Civic Mugen Si 3:24.8 ´08 200 / 1337 Car&Driver
69. VW Golf Mk V GTI 3:25.1 ´04 200 / 1303 Car and Driver
70. Honda Civic SI 3:26.5 ´06 197 / 1330 Car and Driver
71. Volvo C30 T5 3:26.6 ´06 220 / 1453 Car&Driver
72. Mazda MX-5 2.0 MZR 3:29.3 ´05 160 / 1150 Car and Driver


http://www.fastestlaps.com/track20.html

[VADER SS L99]

from that list shouldnt the GT500 be #11? I see what you mean about track, weather, and driver because there is no way a Grand Sport is as fast as a ZO6. By the way, what is a Mosler MT?

[Z/28orSs]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

wow the GT500 is a beast!

i find that really hard to believe that this thing is within eye blinks of a z06
and faster than anything 911