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Old 08-24-2012, 04:30 PM   #15
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In New York the mental health laws and the HIPA act makes it too hard to get the psycho's help if they don't want it ... until its too late =(
Crisis Intervention will make 3 attemps to contact ... if person won't open door even with police escort .. they will close the case until they get another complaint ... and the same thing again ... until its too late or the person turns into a useless zombie...
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:42 PM   #16
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EDIT: I guess the political-comment guy got his post deleted, so now my IBTL post looks lame. Actually, maybe all IBTL posts are a little lame. Hard to resist sometimes...
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:43 PM   #17
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sounds like 8 people and one family just won the lottery curtesy of the NYPD....


now we will hear about how they shouldnt of responded to being fired upon, that we should just announce to criminals all you have to do is fire on police at a crowded intersection and they will just let you go rather than risk hitting other people by responding......course if he had hit people while shooting at the cops and they didnt return fire, they would be crucifying the cops for not stopping him by any force neccessary including deadly......
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:48 PM   #18
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:00 PM   #19
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sounds like 8 people and one family just won the lottery curtesy of the NYPD....


now we will hear about how they shouldnt of responded to being fired upon, that we should just announce to criminals all you have to do is fire on police at a crowded intersection and they will just let you go rather than risk hitting other people by responding......course if he had hit people while shooting at the cops and they didnt return fire, they would be crucifying the cops for not stopping him by any force neccessary including deadly......
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Old 08-25-2012, 04:33 AM   #20
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Why is it that at every mass shooting lately, there is never a victim who was carrying a concealed weapon?



Probably because it's New York.
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Old 08-25-2012, 04:35 AM   #21
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I think it's not about what's wrong with these people, but what's wrong with Obama.


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Old 08-25-2012, 06:08 AM   #22
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Probably because it's New York.
Yeah, our mayor even wants to outlaw non-diet drinks bigger then 16oz....so legally carrying a firearm...not so easy in the city that never sleeps.
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It's impossible to judge what the cops should have or shouldn't have done unless you were there with them. I can't stand Monday morning quarterbacks.
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:29 PM   #24
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It's impossible to judge what the cops should have or shouldn't have done unless you were there with them. I can't stand Monday morning quarterbacks.
There was video and they will be judged by the proper authorities. Personally, I hope they're exonerated, but there are hard questions that need answered...

...like... who's the dumbass that requires them to carry pistols with 8+lb trigger pull...

...Did they empty their mags? Why?

... Did he try to blend in with a large crowd of pedestrians?

I have a lot more, but we'll leave it at that now.

This shooting should go into the books right up there with the LA bank robbery, PD's all over the country should take lessons learned, and implement them into their training.
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:43 PM   #25
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Tragic. Go figure in a city where handguns are illegal, a criminal still finds a way to circumvent the law and shoot someone with a handgun.

That's how effective your "gun control" laws are.
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Old 08-25-2012, 01:44 PM   #26
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Tragic. Go figure in a city where handguns are illegal, a criminal still finds a way to circumvent the law and shoot someone with a handgun.

That's how effective your "gun control" laws are.
That's what I was thinking
Not knowing full details, or care for them..
Just shows that if the bad guy wants a firearm, they'll get one.
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Being from New York it's very sad seeing this happen.
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Strange, I would of said NY was one of the more dangerous cities in the US, but appearently you dont want to live in Michigan or California, they have multiple entries in the top 25

So maybe not allowing handguns is actually a benefit after all...

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