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Old 11-22-2014, 10:10 AM   #1
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New NHRA Rule...BS

Got kicked off the track last night after my 1st pass for running a dismal 11.41 (along with several other cars). Tech informed me that any UNALTERED vehicle, 2008 or newer, can run 10.0/135 mph or slower. All others, without a cage, are limited to 11.5. Even a CAI or tune disqualifies you as an unaltered vehicle. Only tire modifications are allowed.

There should be an exception for cars like ours. I do not believe the mods necessarily make our cars any less safe.....maybe the driver but I've watched several 12 sec cars smack the walls.

No cage for me, guess the strip is now off-limits, which stinks.

Anyone else having the same issue as of late ??
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:25 AM   #2
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didn't know about the unaltered vehicle clause. hmmm.... I used to just do a private rental with friends when I had my old Camaro. hate waiting in line at the local t&t with a bunch of imports who seem to break and oil down track almost every run.

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Old 11-22-2014, 10:32 AM   #3
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Rules are rules.

I don't see a problem with them.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:40 AM   #4
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A long time ago it used to be 12.0 or faster gets a cage.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:43 AM   #5
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By the list of mods in your sig you are heavily altered.

That rule only applies to cars straight off thr showroom floor.

Rule is not new.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:48 AM   #6
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Rules are rules.

I don't see a problem with them.

And they can be impractical and unreasonable as technology changes...something as minor as a pulley swap can make these cars run faster than 11.5. Does not make the car any less safe.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:51 AM   #7
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By the list of mods in your sig you are heavily altered.

That rule only applies to cars straight off thr showroom floor.

Rule is not new.
After a year and several "Friday Night Drags", I guess it is newly enforced ?? I thought it was recent. Thanks
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:56 AM   #8
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After a year and several "Friday Night Drags", I guess it is newly enforced ?? I thought it was recent. Thanks
Ah, the enforcement part... that's a whole separate issue. Kinda of joke. Some tracks enforce it others don't. No consistently.

I feel you on that.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:57 AM   #9
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nope, they did change from 12 to 11.5 but they've always enforced it at my local tracks. I was given a warning once and told I could race that night but need a cage if I came back. wasnt that much faster than 11.5 at that time

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And they can be impractical and unreasonable as technology changes...something as minor as a pulley swap can make these cars run faster than 11.5. Does not make the car any less safe.
Technically it does. With et comes mph, your car was designed to withstand crashes below 50mph give or take. Double that and see how "safe" your car is.
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:59 AM   #11
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Technically it does. With et comes mph, your car was designed to withstand crashes below 50mph give or take. Double that and see how "safe" your car is.
hmmmm...The "safety" difference between an 11.6 @ 120 mph and 11.4 @ 125 is insignificant....... or my PB, an 11.08 @ 128 for that matter. I don't "buy" your argument.
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Old 11-22-2014, 12:28 PM   #12
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hmmmm...The "safety" difference between an 11.6 @ 120 mph and 11.4 @ 125 is insignificant....... or my PB, an 11.08 @ 128 for that matter. I don't "buy" your argument.
My first semtense was just a statememt. You are already doubling what these cars were designed to withstand and that's stock. Rules are in place to keep people safe if the rules didn't achieve that they wouldn't have rules.
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Old 11-22-2014, 12:48 PM   #13
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Got kicked off the track last night after my 1st pass for running a dismal 11.41 (along with several other cars). Tech informed me that any UNALTERED vehicle, 2008 or newer, can run 10.0/135 mph or slower. All others, without a cage, are limited to 11.5. Even a CAI or tune disqualifies you as an unaltered vehicle. Only tire modifications are allowed.

There should be an exception for cars like ours. I do not believe the mods necessarily make our cars any less safe.....maybe the driver but I've watched several 12 sec cars smack the walls.

No cage for me, guess the strip is now off-limits, which stinks.

Anyone else having the same issue as of late ??
The reason for this rule and you being forbidden from racing the car until you cage it is because your car was certified from the factory with it's stock safety equipment at the stock power levels. The NHRA is protecting itself, and the track, from lawsuits. They already have given a very large amount of leeway in allowing modified cars to run without additional safety equipment down to 11.5.

By signing the safety form and submitting to a technical inspection you are attesting to the fact that you have read the NHRA rules (which clearly you have not), understand them (which clearly you don't care to) and are consenting to all provisions therein. If you wreck and cause injury to yourself, another racer, spectator, track official, etc because your car had a catastrophic failure due to power levels/ times faster than NHRA regulations stipulate and you concealed it? Lawsuit city, population YOU.

The rules exist for your safety and the other racers, they are not there to ruin your fun.

Do yourself a favor and either cage it (you can get NHRA cert'd cages with removable side bars) or take some of the power out of it so it's slower than 11.49, those are your only two options if you want to race the car.
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Old 11-22-2014, 01:18 PM   #14
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... or go really fast until the 1/8 mile and coast to the 1/4

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