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Old 05-07-2010, 10:20 PM   #393
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So was this testing done with the first generation AIRAID CAI, the one that I would have probably received back in January 2010?
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Old 05-08-2010, 07:06 AM   #394
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So was this testing done with the first generation AIRAID CAI, the one that I would have probably received back in January 2010?
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:07 AM   #395
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Alright, thanks. Hopefully the new tube will be better then, and from the sound of the testing it is. Besides all the "testing" seen from others, some of the complaints I saw and heard from other people, were some of the same problems I saw and felt in my car.

A close friend of mine who has experience in this field best explained it to me this way, and said he has seen this before:

The length of the air sensor on the car, is designed for the OEM tube diameter.

The AIRID tube is a lot larger, therefor allowing more air to be shoved in by the large air filter, which is understandable.

But, the air sensor may still be trying to give the car the same reading as if the factory air box was still on it. With the AIRAID tube there is a lot more air being pushed in, but the sensor does not know how to account for that large of a tube. Even though fuses were pulled and the engine was reset. This also effects the measurement of air/fuel ratio, and isn't allowing it to achieve its full performance. The car may still be mixing the ratio for the stock intake, and not accounting for the AIRAID CAI.


So this is what I seemed to experience, and is what I felt went wrong with my car.

Forget the money, I just wanna see a honest company fix the problem, or help others who seem to be having trouble. AIRAID hopefully seems to be doing so. We must not forget, not everyones car is going to work like the flawless testing in the video.

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Old 05-08-2010, 12:30 PM   #396
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Alright, thanks. Hopefully the new tube will be better then, and from the sound of the testing it is. Besides all the "testing" seen from others, some of the complaints I saw and heard from other people, were some of the same problems I saw and felt in my car.

A close friend of mine who has experience in this field best explained it to me this way, and said he has seen this before:

The length of the air sensor on the car, is designed for the OEM tube diameter.

The AIRID tube is a lot larger, therefor allowing more air to be shoved in by the large air filter, which is understandable.

But, the air sensor may still be trying to give the car the same reading as if the factory air box was still on it. With the AIRAID tube there is a lot more air being pushed in, but the sensor does not know how to account for that large of a tube. Even though fuses were pulled and the engine was reset. This also effects the measurement of air/fuel ratio, and isn't allowing it to achieve its full performance. The car may still be mixing the ratio for the stock intake, and not accounting for the AIRAID CAI.


So this is what I seemed to experience, and is what I felt went wrong with my car.

Forget the money, I just wanna see a honest company fix the problem, or help others who seem to be having trouble. AIRAID hopefully seems to be doing so. We must not forget, not everyones car is going to work like the flawless testing in the video.

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maybe. injen tube is even longer than the airaid, and doesn't seem to affect the sensor..
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it is the diameter of the tube not the length. Can write more on this later....
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:41 PM   #398
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I wouldn't exactly call this a larger diameter....

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Old 05-08-2010, 04:04 PM   #399
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Hi Everyone!

I apologize for being out of the loop on this deal but I did want to let the customers who purchased Airaid 250-242 from JDP Motorsports to know you will automatically receive your V2 tube once they begin shipping. We just finished moving into our new facility and unfortunately it ate up more time than expected. The list is being sent to Airaid on Monday and we'll send everyone tracking info once they ship. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions you may have regarding this issue.

We appreciate everyone's support and understand! Airaid is a stand up company and they're working very hard to make this right for everyone. This is a great community and we're proud to support it! Have a great weekend!

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Old 05-08-2010, 04:29 PM   #400
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Thanks Dave! Looking forward to your communicae about the beta tubes.
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Old 05-08-2010, 04:55 PM   #401
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Hi Everyone!

I apologize for being out of the loop on this deal but I did want to let the customers who purchased Airaid 250-242 from JDP Motorsports to know you will automatically receive your V2 tube once they begin shipping. We just finished moving into our new facility and unfortunately it ate up more time than expected. The list is being sent to Airaid on Monday and we'll send everyone tracking info once they ship. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions you may have regarding this issue.

We appreciate everyone's support and understand! Airaid is a stand up company and they're working very hard to make this right for everyone. This is a great community and we're proud to support it! Have a great weekend!

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I wouldn't exactly call this a larger diameter....

true... then their is the whole laminar flow thing... what ever the reason, the computer is thinking there is less air than there really is...
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Alright, thanks. Hopefully the new tube will be better then, and from the sound of the testing it is. Besides all the "testing" seen from others, some of the complaints I saw and heard from other people, were some of the same problems I saw and felt in my car.

A close friend of mine who has experience in this field best explained it to me this way, and said he has seen this before:

The length of the air sensor on the car, is designed for the OEM tube diameter.

The AIRID tube is a lot larger, therefor allowing more air to be shoved in by the large air filter, which is understandable.

But, the air sensor may still be trying to give the car the same reading as if the factory air box was still on it. With the AIRAID tube there is a lot more air being pushed in, but the sensor does not know how to account for that large of a tube. Even though fuses were pulled and the engine was reset. This also effects the measurement of air/fuel ratio, and isn't allowing it to achieve its full performance. The car may still be mixing the ratio for the stock intake, and not accounting for the AIRAID CAI.


So this is what I seemed to experience, and is what I felt went wrong with my car.

Forget the money, I just wanna see a honest company fix the problem, or help others who seem to be having trouble. AIRAID hopefully seems to be doing so. We must not forget, not everyones car is going to work like the flawless testing in the video.

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Mostly correct...


The are a few companies that will sell a CAI with a larger tube. This cause the car's computer to think there is LESS air going in than there really is causing the car to run lean, which usually makes a bit more power, but apparently not in our case.

Also, it's not that the sensor can't account for the extra air, it's actually the car's computer... the computer is doing the calculations and determining the proper amount of fuel to use based on the calculations. And those calculations are based on knowing the size of the intake tube. Change the size of the tube without telling the computer and you throw off the calculations... which results in the wrong amount of fuel...

The other thing that can throw off these calculations is an incorrect MAF sensor reading. The MAF sensor can provide inaccurate readings to the car's computer. This can be due to a variety things... like not having a smooth (laminar) flow across the sensor...

Now I'm not sure what the issue is with the Airaid, i just know that the computer is thinking that there is LESS air going into the engine than there really is, resulting in the car running a bit leaner than with the stock intake.
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Hi Everyone!

I apologize for being out of the loop on this deal but I did want to let the customers who purchased Airaid 250-242 from JDP Motorsports to know you will automatically receive your V2 tube once they begin shipping. We just finished moving into our new facility and unfortunately it ate up more time than expected. The list is being sent to Airaid on Monday and we'll send everyone tracking info once they ship. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions you may have regarding this issue.

We appreciate everyone's support and understand! Airaid is a stand up company and they're working very hard to make this right for everyone. This is a great community and we're proud to support it! Have a great weekend!



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Great job JDP, another fine example of customer service...........
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How do I get on this list ?or is it first come first serve.I've had mine sin's oct / nov
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Old 05-09-2010, 08:25 PM   #406
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Hi Everyone!

I apologize for being out of the loop on this deal but I did want to let the customers who purchased Airaid 250-242 from JDP Motorsports to know you will automatically receive your V2 tube once they begin shipping. We just finished moving into our new facility and unfortunately it ate up more time than expected. The list is being sent to Airaid on Monday and we'll send everyone tracking info once they ship. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions you may have regarding this issue.

We appreciate everyone's support and understand! Airaid is a stand up company and they're working very hard to make this right for everyone. This is a great community and we're proud to support it! Have a great weekend!

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If we bought the Airaid CAI from another company will we still get one from Airaid automatically? Do we have to let Airaid or the other Vendor know?
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