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Old 03-30-2011, 06:05 PM   #43
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It's not gonna be 300 - 500 lbs lighter, impossible! Why a 5.3? It makes no sense. It will weigh the same and have less HP.
We need to be reasonable. Compare previous Z28's to the other Camaros of the same model year.
Very simply put it should be a Camaro version of the Boss, but of course it will be better!
Give us the Z28!
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:10 PM   #44
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New test picture of the new Z/28.

Can you see the Z/28 emblems on it?

Thank you alex33x for letting me use your car.
The real Z/28 wouldn't have GFX. Just another thing to add weight that offers no performance gain at all. To be a boss killer need theyt to get rid of stuff ,not add things for ornamental effect.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:38 PM   #45
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It's not gonna be 300 - 500 lbs lighter, impossible! Why a 5.3? It makes no sense. It will weigh the same and have less HP.
We need to be reasonable. Compare previous Z28's to the other Camaros of the same model year.
Very simply put it should be a Camaro version of the Boss, but of course it will be better!
Give us the Z28!
Maybe he meant the new D.I V8 GM says they don't have

500 lbs lighter impossible, no. Improbable, yes. Could dump 500 lbs quick, but it would cost.

Like Number3 reminded us... the original Z/28 (street version) wasn't a stripped down race car. You could get it loaded with just about any option offered other than powertrain.

If you want an SSX, get a BIW, find a salvage car and go to work.

I'd like to see the Leno car produced.... I'd drive that happy little 450 hp 6-banger!
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:43 PM   #46
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Maybe he meant the new D.I V8 GM says they don't have

500 lbs lighter impossible, no. Improbable, yes. Could dump 500 lbs quick, but it would cost.

Like Number3 reminded us... the original Z/28 (street version) wasn't a stripped down race car. You could get it loaded with just about any option offered other than powertrain.

If you want an SSX, get a BIW, find a salvage car and go to work.

I'd like to see the Leno car produced.... I'd drive that happy little 450 hp 6-banger!
In context it is impossible.
I agree you could option it to be almost as much as a base vette.
I can't be any more clear; make it a Boss competitor. It should not be a "race car" it should be a street driven "race car". Two very different things.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:57 PM   #47
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I wanted a Z/28 before the ZL1 or the Boss came out.
Ditto, I've been waiting for a Z/28 ever since the Camaro Concept was first show at the Detroit Auto Show in 2006!! My avatar picture was done by Dragoneye on this site long before the ZL1 was even a thought in anyone's mind, around Nov. 2007 with Z/28 emblems on it.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:05 PM   #48
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The real Z/28 wouldn't have GFX. Just another thing to add weight that offers no performance gain at all. To be a boss killer need theyt to get rid of stuff ,not add things for ornamental effect.
Hmmm, I seem to recall my '69 Z/28 having some GFX, though it was modest chin and trunk lid spoilers.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:08 PM   #49
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Maybe he meant the new D.I V8 GM says they don't have

500 lbs lighter impossible, no. Improbable, yes. Could dump 500 lbs quick, but it would cost.

Like Number3 reminded us... the original Z/28 (street version) wasn't a stripped down race car. You could get it loaded with just about any option offered other than powertrain.

If you want an SSX, get a BIW, find a salvage car and go to work.

I'd like to see the Leno car produced.... I'd drive that happy little 450 hp 6-banger!
The first gen. Z/28s could only be loaded to a certain point. No vert, no AC, no auto tranny.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:09 PM   #50
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Sign me up for a Z/28 if GM can put one together that is:

1) 400lbs lighter
2) 15% increase in HP/TQ
3) SSX car suspension
4) $5-6K above the SS
5) ground effects
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Nope..why would I want to downgrade....
Already built a supersnake killer.
And working on the roadcourse Boss Killer. But it will take some big brakes "Stop Tech" and a full pfadt kit. No big deal and then the Z28 will still seem mild compared.
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Hmmm, I seem to recall my '69 Z/28 having some GFX, though it was modest chin and trunk lid spoilers.
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That's not the point. The question is "do you want a Boss killer?" Well that's not going to happen by adding weight to the car. Besides, 69 camaros didn't have GFX unless you count chrome rocker molding as GFX. LOL
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For those of you that want a Z28, I hope that GM builds the car that you want. A lighter, more stripped down model. For me, GM built built me the exact car that I hoped/wanted them to build in the ZL1. The fact that it might be a bit heavier does not bother me a bit. A 550+HP S/C engine, Magnetic Shocks, HD Suspension, Forged Wheels with huge tires, 6 Piston Brembo brakes with large rotors, Suede Interior, Heads Up Display, Dual Mode Exhaust and Carbon Fiber Hood insert. There is nothing that I want to change, for me, the car is perfect. I hope they do the same for you and build the Z28 that you want.
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That's not the point. The question is "do you want a Boss killer?" Well that's not going to happen by adding weight to the car. Besides, 69 camaros didn't have GFX unless you count chrome rocker molding as GFX. LOL
Well the chin and trunk lid spoilers added very little weight and were quite effective at changing the handling characteristics. Educate yourself:

http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/...article_fs.htm with further info on them. Statements that GFX should not be on a new Z/28 can be very misleading if the GFX weigh little and make a big difference in handling at highway speeds and above.
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Even the current GFX pieces I have on mine are very light and make the vehicle a lot more aerodynamics and looks lowered.
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New test picture of the new Z/28.

Can you see the Z/28 emblems on it?

Thank you alex33x for letting me use your car.
Nice looking, and good option, but I would love if it would look similar to this:

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