747 Crash in Afghanistan (video)

[ec1990]

Originally Posted by upflying

Flaps aren't retracted until well after departure and speed increase. Extended flaps were in the correct position for take-off.
Gear was still extended at crash, pilot was preoccupied with controlling the aircraft.

Although in my opinion, if the load did break and the aircraft suddenly pitched up, almost any response would have been useless in recovering from that stall as it happened too quick for him to negate what the aircraft responded in doing.

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by rare991

doesn't matter! planes crash all the time.....when a car has a engine problem or runs out of gas you just pull off to the side of the road. when a plane has an issue your screwed

if by all the time, you mean very rarely, sure...
http://planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm
If you fly the good airlines, your chances are 1 in 19.8 million.

Chances of dying in a car crash? 1 in 100.
http://www.livescience.com/3780-odds-dying.html

[CamaroSkooter]

The difference being I have control of my car. I have zero control of the airplane.

[Overflow]

You have to go through years of training to fly a plane, you don't need much training to be qualified to drive a car.

[PoorMansCamaro]

elevator is still the safest way to travel...

[QUICKSS]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

The difference being I have control of my car. I have zero control of the airplane.

You can't control someone elses car

[01pewterz28]

Originally Posted by QUICKSS

You can't control someone elses car

DING DING

[mr_honez]

Originally Posted by 01pewterz28

DING DING

[SteveRS]

I have friends in Bagram right now tellin me bout this

[f5journal]

That video is hard to keep in proper depth perception and perspective during one short portion. Did the plane swap ends/tail actually start coming at the camera at one point. I think that's the case if we were seeing the belly of the plane at all times in the clip

I watched it about 6-8 times and remained a bit confused

[429]

No reason to combat take off in a plane that size, but they require it, and these pilots and crew paid the price.

[AZCamaroFan]

Originally Posted by rare991

the reason I avoid flying........that's my worst nightmare

and why was the guy driving along taking a video?

[upflying]

Originally Posted by Overflow

You have to go through years of training to fly a plane, you don't need much training to be qualified to drive a car.

Agreed, judging by drivers in Ca, you don't even need a pulse to drive a car.
I'd rather have planes flying over me than cars driving past me.

[ec1990]

Originally Posted by 429

No reason to combat take off in a plane that size, but they require it, and these pilots and crew paid the price.

Combat takeoffs aren't that close to stall though. You have a best rate of climb airspeed and best angle of climb, one allows you to gain the most altitude in a time period and the other allows the most altitude gain over a ground distance. Both are well above stall speed by 10-20%. And for a plane like that is 20-40kts. So if the plane was loaded properly it would not have been a factor. The main issue is the CG, whether the cargo shifted or was overloaded is another question.