'85 Camaro vs. '87 Mustang and '91 Firebird - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Supercamaro64 · 12-09-2008, 02:35 PM

hey me and some friends of mine were arguing about who has the better car, and we each think it is ours. I have the camaro, its an '85 2.8 liter V6 camaro berlinetta. Now the firebird is in pretty bad shape, so that isnt the one im worried about. its the mustang, because this guy takes such good care of that car that its almost like new. I do know, however, that most of the parts in it are stock, and it is a convertible. but the thing is wicked fast

This is the mustang

This is my camaro

and this is the firebird.
each of these pics was taken at our respective houses about a month ago, and we are racing in a week. do i have a chance?

09'Z28 · 12-09-2008, 03:42 PM

is the 'Stang a V8?(if it's in picture i can't see it my school blocks most pictures)

*Milk 1027* · 12-09-2008, 04:37 PM

red x's

Supercamaro64 · 12-10-2008, 10:14 PM

do those pics work?

09'Z28 · 12-10-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercamaro64

do those pics work?

pictures work, looks like the 'Stang has a 5.0 so i would think that the race would be his (but i'm not positive) so tell him that since he has a V8 and you a V6 he should remove 2 spark plugs to make it even(

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Conflict · 12-10-2008, 10:56 PM

I would go with the stang,its a 5.0 and those things are pretty fast

Supercamaro64 · 12-11-2008, 06:44 AM

yea but he also sucks at driving lol and wouldnt his convertible top make him heavier? plus, the camaro and firebird are stick, and the stang is slapstick

Supermans · 12-11-2008, 07:13 AM

The stang with the 5.0 and an average driver with a lead foot will still win against your V6's stock vs stock, even with an automatic tranny vs your sticks.. Especially since his car looks to be in the best shape of the three.

joes3rdcamaro82/91/2010 · 12-11-2008, 04:16 PM

If you side-swipe him at the launch you could win!

zebra · 12-11-2008, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 09'Z28

pictures work, looks like the 'Stang has a 5.0 so i would think that the race would be his (but i'm not positive) so tell him that since he has a V8 and you a V6 he should remove 2 spark plugs to make it even(

)

that would be awesome!! "which two do i pick? there's so many to choose from!"

thecamaroguy · 12-11-2008, 04:22 PM

1987 Mustang Engines
EngineHP/TQ0-60Quarter Mile
2.4L EFI Inline 4 88 hp @ 3800 RPM
130 lb-ft @ 2800 RPM

5.0L EFI V-8 225 hp @ 4200 RPM
300 lb-ft @ 3200 RPM 6.7 sec 15.1 sec

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1985 Pontiac Trans Am (Hot Rod Magazine)

Engine: 305ci (5.0L HO "L-69"), 9.5:1 Compression Ratio, Rochester 4 BBL, HP: 190, TQ: 240
Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.73:1 Rear Axle.
1/4 mile: 15.30 @ 92.41 MPH
Skid Pad: .92g

1988 Chevrolet Camaro (Hot Rod Magazine)

Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Throttle Body Injected, HP: 170@4000 RPM, TQ: 255@2400 RPM
Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.08:1 Rear Axle.
0-60 MPH: 7.6 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.71 @ 89.3 MPH
Skid Pad: .82g

1988 Pontiac Firebird Formula (Hot Rod Magazine)

Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 215@4400 RPM, TQ: 285@3200 RPM
Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.45:1 Rear Axle.
0-60 MPH: 7.1 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.07 @ 93.4 MPH
Skid Pad: .86g

1989 Pontiac Trans Am (Hot Rod Magazine)

Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 215@4400 RPM, TQ: 285@3200 RPM
Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.08:1 Rear Axle.
0-60 MPH: 6.72 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.64 @ 92.8 MPH

1991 Pontiac GTA Convertible (Hot Rod Magazine)

Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 225@4400 RPM, TQ: 300@3200 RPM
Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.42:1 Rear Axle.
0-60 MPH: 7.36 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.37 @ 89.73 MPH

1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula "1LE" (Hot Rod Magazine)

Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression, Tuned Port Injected,
HP: 225@4400 RPM, TQ: 300@3200
Drivetrain: Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.42:1 Rear Axle.
0-60 MPH: 6.53 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.55 @ 92.95 MPH

1992 Pontiac Trans Am Convertible (Car Craft Magazine)

Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 205@4400 RPM, TQ: 285@3200 RPM
Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission
0-60 MPH: 7.0 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.4 @ 91.3 MPH

Supercamaro64 · 12-11-2008, 07:56 PM

so i have no chance? great, im gonna lose to a mustang. if there is anything tht i cud do 2 win, please tell me.

09'Z28 · 12-11-2008, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supercamaro64

so i have no chance? great, im gonna lose to a mustang. if there is anything tht i cud do 2 win, please tell me.

well you say he sucks at driving so that should help you a bit, also you could try doing the race somewhere that has a bunch of corners his 'vert shouldn't have the same cornering you would have (even with T-Tops)
or you could just cheat and put a nail under his tire at you start line

zebra · 12-11-2008, 09:38 PM

sorry, but those 5.0s are solid engines if taken care of like that guy has. the 2.8 ain't got much on it, so it's gonna be a driver's race (and that's only if he really really stinks)

12-09-2008, 02:35 PM	#1
Supercamaro64 Right, right. Drives: 79 Z28, 86 Camaro, 94 Burb 4x4 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 1,350 View My Garage	'85 Camaro vs. '87 Mustang and '91 Firebird hey me and some friends of mine were arguing about who has the better car, and we each think it is ours. I have the camaro, its an '85 2.8 liter V6 camaro berlinetta. Now the firebird is in pretty bad shape, so that isnt the one im worried about. its the mustang, because this guy takes such good care of that car that its almost like new. I do know, however, that most of the parts in it are stock, and it is a convertible. but the thing is wicked fast This is the mustang This is my camaro and this is the firebird. each of these pics was taken at our respective houses about a month ago, and we are racing in a week. do i have a chance? Last edited by Supercamaro64; 12-09-2008 at 05:41 PM.

12-09-2008, 03:42 PM	#2
09'Z28 The "Mad Hamster" Drives: '71 Camaro, '90 mx5, '71 2002 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 1,610 View My Garage	is the 'Stang a V8?(if it's in picture i can't see it my school blocks most pictures) __________________

12-09-2008, 04:37 PM	#3
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	red x's __________________

12-11-2008, 06:44 AM	#7
Supercamaro64 Right, right. Drives: 79 Z28, 86 Camaro, 94 Burb 4x4 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 1,350 View My Garage	yea but he also sucks at driving lol and wouldnt his convertible top make him heavier? plus, the camaro and firebird are stick, and the stang is slapstick Last edited by Supercamaro64; 12-11-2008 at 06:55 AM.

12-11-2008, 07:13 AM	#8
Supermans Camaro & Stang Enthusiast Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 4,752 View My Garage	The stang with the 5.0 and an average driver with a lead foot will still win against your V6's stock vs stock, even with an automatic tranny vs your sticks.. Especially since his car looks to be in the best shape of the three. __________________ Bought my Camaro from Eric Hall(817) 421-7266

12-10-2008, 10:14 PM	#4
Supercamaro64 Right, right. Drives: 79 Z28, 86 Camaro, 94 Burb 4x4 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 1,350 View My Garage	do those pics work?

12-10-2008, 10:56 PM	#6
Conflict Loving the F body Drives: 97 Firebird 3.8L 5 Speed Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palm Desert, CA Posts: 203 View My Garage	I would go with the stang,its a 5.0 and those things are pretty fast

12-11-2008, 04:16 PM	#9
joes3rdcamaro82/91/2010 Z28 Hold Out! Drives: 2000 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks. Posts: 354	If you side-swipe him at the launch you could win!

12-11-2008, 04:22 PM	#11
thecamaroguy Drives: 2020 ZLE 67 SS350 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 537	1987 Mustang Engines EngineHP/TQ0-60Quarter Mile 2.4L EFI Inline 4 88 hp @ 3800 RPM 130 lb-ft @ 2800 RPM 5.0L EFI V-8 225 hp @ 4200 RPM 300 lb-ft @ 3200 RPM 6.7 sec 15.1 sec --------------------------------------- 1985 Pontiac Trans Am (Hot Rod Magazine) Engine: 305ci (5.0L HO "L-69"), 9.5:1 Compression Ratio, Rochester 4 BBL, HP: 190, TQ: 240 Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.73:1 Rear Axle. 1/4 mile: 15.30 @ 92.41 MPH Skid Pad: .92g 1988 Chevrolet Camaro (Hot Rod Magazine) Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Throttle Body Injected, HP: 170@4000 RPM, TQ: 255@2400 RPM Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.08:1 Rear Axle. 0-60 MPH: 7.6 seconds 1/4 mile: 15.71 @ 89.3 MPH Skid Pad: .82g 1988 Pontiac Firebird Formula (Hot Rod Magazine) Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 215@4400 RPM, TQ: 285@3200 RPM Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.45:1 Rear Axle. 0-60 MPH: 7.1 seconds 1/4 mile: 15.07 @ 93.4 MPH Skid Pad: .86g 1989 Pontiac Trans Am (Hot Rod Magazine) Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 215@4400 RPM, TQ: 285@3200 RPM Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.08:1 Rear Axle. 0-60 MPH: 6.72 seconds 1/4 mile: 15.64 @ 92.8 MPH 1991 Pontiac GTA Convertible (Hot Rod Magazine) Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 225@4400 RPM, TQ: 300@3200 RPM Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.42:1 Rear Axle. 0-60 MPH: 7.36 seconds 1/4 mile: 15.37 @ 89.73 MPH 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula "1LE" (Hot Rod Magazine) Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 225@4400 RPM, TQ: 300@3200 Drivetrain: Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.42:1 Rear Axle. 0-60 MPH: 6.53 seconds 1/4 mile: 14.55 @ 92.95 MPH 1992 Pontiac Trans Am Convertible (Car Craft Magazine) Engine: 305ci (5.0L), 9.3:1 Compression Ratio, Tuned Port Injected, HP: 205@4400 RPM, TQ: 285@3200 RPM Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission 0-60 MPH: 7.0 seconds 1/4 mile: 15.4 @ 91.3 MPH

12-11-2008, 07:56 PM	#12
Supercamaro64 Right, right. Drives: 79 Z28, 86 Camaro, 94 Burb 4x4 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 1,350 View My Garage	so i have no chance? great, im gonna lose to a mustang. if there is anything tht i cud do 2 win, please tell me.

12-11-2008, 09:38 PM	#14
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	sorry, but those 5.0s are solid engines if taken care of like that guy has. the 2.8 ain't got much on it, so it's gonna be a driver's race (and that's only if he really really stinks) __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408