Anyone use these headers ?? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

SSMY1LE · 09-05-2014, 09:54 AM

Anyone use these ? says they are a direct bolt up to the stock exhaust. Is it worth the hp gain as compared to Long Tubes ?? More importantly, do these prevent throwing any codes ???

Destructo09 · 09-05-2014, 10:06 AM

You won't gain much bolting them up to the stock cats, that's where a good bit of the power from longtubes is gained.

I would say you might get 10 hp from just bolting those onto the stock cats.

If you want to stay un-tuned you might be able to get away with the short tubes along with some stock replacement high flow cats, you may not get a CEL then and wouldn't need a tune. If you can do that you'll gain much more power than just swapping the manifolds for shorties.

Basically, not worth the money you spend for the HP gain unless you pair them with cats, or you just want the sound.

rontammy0 · 09-05-2014, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSMY1LE

Anyone use these ? says they are a direct bolt up to the stock exhaust. Is it worth the hp gain as compared to Long Tubes ?? More importantly, do these prevent throwing any codes ???

Yep work great...look even better...the jba spark plugs wires in red really add a nice touch.

rontammy0 · 09-05-2014, 10:08 AM

Here is how they look on the car

rontammy0 · 09-05-2014, 10:12 AM

I have these bolted up to solo hi flow cats...no tune with these is needed ...emissions legal as well. You will see better gains with the hi flow cats .....together they make good power with great sound.

Sales@Phastek · 09-05-2014, 10:24 AM

We have bolted these up and tested them. You will see about 10 HP with the Factory Cats. You can also get these in 3 different finishes. Stainless PT#1812S, Silver Ceramic Coated PT#1812SJS, and Ceramic Coated Titanium #1812SJT. These will also work with the Turbonectics Single Turbo Kit. Another good thing about these Shorty Headers is that they are CARB legal.

MightymouseSS · 09-05-2014, 06:01 PM

I used to have that exact set on my car into oem cats. Its help a lil bit but not much. Id say if your gonna put some hf cats you'll see better results. But if you run the numbers after these shorties and hf cats you might as well go with LTs in the first place.

BubbaSS · 09-06-2014, 12:27 PM

Unless you live somewhere with restrictions against long tubes or are extra concerned about warranty issues, you should go long tube. A tune is highly recommended with long tubes, not so much with short. The performance you get from long tubes are not only superior as is, but will assist future performance mods in reaching their full potential.

mikeyg36 · 09-06-2014, 03:17 PM

It's a waste compared to long tubes.

Smkn600CTD · 09-06-2014, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

It's a waste compared to long tubes.

Unless you in live California where they are the only LEGAL option. Long tubes don't fly here!

1KillerSS · 09-06-2014, 11:01 PM

I have never used those headers......I have had BBK's shorties, and I would say just spend your money on toilet paper, you'll be a lot more satisfied when its all said and done.

I gained 7WHP with my shorties and no CEL

If you are trying to compare them to LT's...its no comparison, the difference is like night and day....IMO

YAKACHE · 09-06-2014, 11:02 PM

Shorties are just to compliment the engine bay. What gives you more power is swapping those four heavy cats for high flow cats. Jba or solo mid pipes is what you need. And if you still want shorty headers then it'll be up to your taste in color coatings. Good luck.

rontammy0 · 09-06-2014, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sales@Phastek

We have bolted these up and tested them. You will see about 10 HP with the Factory Cats. You can also get these in 3 different finishes. Stainless PT#1812S, Silver Ceramic Coated PT#1812SJS, and Ceramic Coated Titanium #1812SJT. These will also work with the Turbonectics Single Turbo Kit. Another good thing about these Shorty Headers is that they are CARB legal.

Hmmm 10 hp..without cats..i wonder what they would pull with the solos..op these headers work well when hooked up to hiflows..i cant give you a number...seems nobody can for some reason, You would be happy with them. Its all up to you.

jag107 · 09-07-2014, 06:05 PM

I put in those JBA shorties with the JBA hi flow cats and got a code about 500 miles later. If you don't mind the light, you'll love the sound and extra power. I didn't dyno and I did the swap all at once so I don't really know what the shorties did, I'd assume the hi flow cats did the most power wise but anyway if you're gonna do the shorties do the cats at the same time, it'll be worth it.

09-05-2014, 10:06 AM	#2
Destructo09 Drives: 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS/LS3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Raleigh-Durham Posts: 1,409	You won't gain much bolting them up to the stock cats, that's where a good bit of the power from longtubes is gained. I would say you might get 10 hp from just bolting those onto the stock cats. If you want to stay un-tuned you might be able to get away with the short tubes along with some stock replacement high flow cats, you may not get a CEL then and wouldn't need a tune. If you can do that you'll gain much more power than just swapping the manifolds for shorties. Basically, not worth the money you spend for the HP gain unless you pair them with cats, or you just want the sound. __________________ 2010 2SS BMR 1" Springs Koni Orange struts/shocks 1LE rear sway bar SRP Racing Pedals Hurst Billet short shifter Square tire/wheel setup Elite Engineering Catch Can Stainless Power longtubes/highflow cats K&N Typhoon CAI RPM Motorsports of Garner, NC dyno tune (421 RWHP)

09-05-2014, 10:08 AM	#4
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	Here is how they look on the car Attached Images

09-05-2014, 10:24 AM	#6
Sales@Phastek Drives: 2016 1SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,817	We have bolted these up and tested them. You will see about 10 HP with the Factory Cats. You can also get these in 3 different finishes. Stainless PT#1812S, Silver Ceramic Coated PT#1812SJS, and Ceramic Coated Titanium #1812SJT. These will also work with the Turbonectics Single Turbo Kit. Another good thing about these Shorty Headers is that they are CARB legal. __________________

09-05-2014, 06:01 PM	#7
MightymouseSS Drives: 2011 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: el paso tx Posts: 547	I used to have that exact set on my car into oem cats. Its help a lil bit but not much. Id say if your gonna put some hf cats you'll see better results. But if you run the numbers after these shorties and hf cats you might as well go with LTs in the first place. __________________ Vararam Stainless Works Headers Vmax TB SLP loudmouth 2 Nightfury Cam Mike Norris CC Tuned by Southwest Speed

09-06-2014, 12:27 PM	#8
BubbaSS WHAT RED LIGHT?! Drives: 2011 Black Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,115	Unless you live somewhere with restrictions against long tubes or are extra concerned about warranty issues, you should go long tube. A tune is highly recommended with long tubes, not so much with short. The performance you get from long tubes are not only superior as is, but will assist future performance mods in reaching their full potential. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS M6 BLACK - VARARAM NO TUNE INTAKE, MODDED AND PORTED TB, PORTED INTAKE MANIFOLD, VITESSE THROTTLE CONTROLLER, DOUG THORLEY LT'S, CATLESS, X-PIPE, 25" STAINLESS WORKS RETRO CHAMBERED MUFFLERS, CUSTOM 2.5" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST, RICHMOND 4.10 GEARS, CUSTOM CAM (231/242 @ 114LSA), MUSTANG DYNO TUNED BY TORQ, 20% CERAMIC TINTS, EIBACH PROKIT SPRINGS 1" DROP, HAWK PERFORMANCE CERAMIC BRAKES, NITTO INVO TIRES, HYDROCARBON TAIL LIGHT AND FOG LIGHT BEZELS BY EMBLEMPROS, METRA DASH KIT, JVC KW-AV71BT, PHOENIX GOLD iAMP GM1, PASSPORT QI45 - 450 RWHP 415 RWTQ

09-05-2014, 09:54 AM	#1
SSMY1LE Drives: '14 1LE RS NPP Recaro Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: YYZ Posts: 1,676 View My Garage	Anyone use these headers ?? Anyone use these ? says they are a direct bolt up to the stock exhaust. Is it worth the hp gain as compared to Long Tubes ?? More importantly, do these prevent throwing any codes ??? __________________ '14 1LE, Recaro, Cammed, Headers, Hi Flows, CAI, Tuned, 486 RWHP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H57UfKCO0EY&feature=youtu.be

09-05-2014, 10:12 AM	#5
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	I have these bolted up to solo hi flow cats...no tune with these is needed ...emissions legal as well. You will see better gains with the hi flow cats .....together they make good power with great sound.

09-06-2014, 03:17 PM	#9
mikeyg36 Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Posts: 6,731	It's a waste compared to long tubes.

09-06-2014, 11:01 PM	#11
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	I have never used those headers......I have had BBK's shorties, and I would say just spend your money on toilet paper, you'll be a lot more satisfied when its all said and done. I gained 7WHP with my shorties and no CEL If you are trying to compare them to LT's...its no comparison, the difference is like night and day....IMO __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

09-06-2014, 11:02 PM	#12
YAKACHE Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Newark Posts: 8	Shorties are just to compliment the engine bay. What gives you more power is swapping those four heavy cats for high flow cats. Jba or solo mid pipes is what you need. And if you still want shorty headers then it'll be up to your taste in color coatings. Good luck.

09-07-2014, 06:05 PM	#14
jag107 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM M6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Corona, Ca Posts: 221	I put in those JBA shorties with the JBA hi flow cats and got a code about 500 miles later. If you don't mind the light, you'll love the sound and extra power. I didn't dyno and I did the swap all at once so I don't really know what the shorties did, I'd assume the hi flow cats did the most power wise but anyway if you're gonna do the shorties do the cats at the same time, it'll be worth it. __________________ Placed order: 02.25.2010 Took delivery: 04.06.2010 Halltech Yellowjacket CAI, Mike Norris catch can, VMAX PTB, JBA Shorty headers Hi Flow cats & axleback, Magnaflow Tru X pipe, Eibach F&R sway bars & end links