[ICEing]

I heard that there is a price drop incoming for the SS but could find no reputable sources. Is this true? And when will this be in effect?

[SS 1LE]

'18 will have a slight price increase, not drop...

[Tremek]

Chevy/GM are in serious trouble if they keep increasing MSRPs. Why?

A brand-new Mustang GT is $25k, and GT Premiums are $31k. That's why.

The vast majority of car buyers out there have weak brand loyalty. I'm one of them. I buy the best cars I can get for my needs and for the price. Mustang GTs being $10k cheaper than the cheapest SSs out there doesn't bode well for SS sales.

Edit: changed the link above to reflect that yes, there are $25k new 2017 Mustang GTs and not just mis-labeled Ecoboosts.

[Tremek]

I also prefer the LS motors, but for anyone that's not one of us forum-warrioring enthusiasts, the nicer interior of the Mustang and the $9k+ cost-savings are going to sway many buyers to the GT, especially considering that when driven up to 7/10ths, the GT is still very formidable and to some eyes a prettier design than the Camaro.

Even enthusiasts have to admit the Mustang's FI community is doing some pretty amazing things for less money than most blowers available for the Camaro, and that's also a big influence for underground and competitive drag guys, and even if that's a tiny segment of the population, they're certainly influencers.

GM needs to do a reality check on what cars like this will transact at in the future. Chevy's sales are considerably down both YoY as well as month to month. Camaro sales alone don't keep Chevy afloat - thank the humans that don't even care about the act of driving, or what they drive, and buy an Equinox - but too-high MSRPs across the board for Chevy and frankly most of GM, and then heavy discounting to counter the MSRP, is not a good long-term competitive business practice.

Moreover, if you train consumers that your brand regularly offers 10-20% off MSRP sales on a regular basis (see the woes of JCPenney as a good indicator for how this plays out when that's what your brand is built on, and then you start charging premium prices) GM's going to continue to see market share whittled away on the margins first, and then in the meat of their profitable product lines, and that's when niche and halo cars go away. :(

[95birdible]

A new GT Premium Vert for 37.500? That is only a grand more than I paid for my 12 1SS Vert. Chevy better start chopping prices quick.

[MotownBoy]

A 727 HP Mustang for $40 Gs? If something sounds to god to be true, it usually is.

I'll keep my 2SS in any case but I'm curious to follow this Mustang.

[ICEing]

Originally Posted by Tremek

Chevy/GM are in serious trouble if they keep increasing MSRPs. Why?

A brand-new Mustang GT Premium is $25k. That's why.

The vast majority of car buyers out there have weak brand loyalty. I'm one of them. I buy the best cars I can get for my needs and for the price. Mustang GTs being $10k cheaper than the cheapest SSs out there doesn't bode well for SS sales.

What the actual hell? Is that a scam? There's no way a GT premium can be 25k that's cheap as hell. Official Ford Website says a base Mustang is 25k. GT Premium is 37k. How is that one 12k less???

Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

You can buy a 727 HP Mustang GT with a Roush blower installed and a warranty from Lebanon Ford in Ohio for $40k. That said, I still like the Camaro better overall.

http://www.lebanonford.com/the-727-hp-mustang.htm

I saw this before. This also looks fishy. I've always been taught if something looks too good to be true, it usually is. That doesn't come with any suspension upgrades to handle that HP does it?

[Tremek]

Re: the Lebanon 727 package, it's the same or better as buying a SS and then having the dealer install a supercharger for you; better in the sense that Lebanon themselves are warrantying the install and mechanicals for 3/36, which you typically won't find elsewhere. And in this case, doing it for something like ~$5-10k cheaper than if you did it with a similarly-equipped Camaro.

I'm sure there are both happy customers as well as customers who have encountered issues, just like any aftermarket blower installation would create. YMMV?

Originally Posted by ICEing

What the actual hell? Is that a scam? There's no way a GT premium can be 25k that's cheap as hell



I saw this before. This also looks fishy. I've always been taught if something looks too good to be true, it usually is. That doesn't come with any suspension upgrades to handle that HP does it?

Nope, these are real. At $26k anyway they are, I think the $25k models in the link I posted aren't Coyotes. The most spartan of Mustang GTs have been transacting at or around $25k +TTL since the Coyote came out.

Edit #3: Appears $26k GTs are all over, however, many GTs are mis-listed as "Premium" and aren't actual Premium cars. Here's an actual Premium for $31.4k. Also looks like you can get that car at 0% for 36 months, or 1.9% for 60 +$500 back through Ford Credit. Where's your counter, Chevy?

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by Tremek

Chevy/GM are in serious trouble if they keep increasing MSRPs. Why?

A brand-new Mustang GT Premium is $25k. That's why.

The vast majority of car buyers out there have weak brand loyalty. I'm one of them. I buy the best cars I can get for my needs and for the price. Mustang GTs being $10k cheaper than the cheapest SSs out there doesn't bode well for SS sales.

Those are base GT. Look at MSRP. MSRP on a Premium is over $37,000.

[ICEing]

Originally Posted by Tremek

Re: the Lebanon 727 package, it's the same or better as buying a SS and then having the dealer install a supercharger for you; better in the sense that Lebanon themselves are warrantying the install and mechanicals for 3/36, which you typically won't find elsewhere. And in this case, doing it for something like ~$5-10k cheaper than if you did it with a similarly-equipped Camaro.

I'm sure there are both happy customers as well as customers who have encountered issues, just like any aftermarket blower installation would create. YMMV?



Nope, these are real. At $26k anyway they are, I think the $25k models in the link I posted aren't Coyotes. The most spartan of Mustang GTs have been transacting at or around $25k +TTL since the Coyote came out.

Edit: least-expensive actual GT Premium (looks as many dealers have non-Premiums or even GTs mis-listed as Premium; did some digging on Ford's site, and this car with Recaros looks to be the real deal at just a hair over $30k; contrast that against the cheapest 2SS at $36.6k. $26k GTs all over however.

I thought all Mustang GTs are 5.0Coyotes? Guess I don't know that much about Mustangs. I'm about to if they are selling that cheap. That can definitely leave me some money for a nice supercharger. But then I would just look into the Lebanon Ford Dealership.

[Tremek]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

Those are base GT. Look at MSRP. MSRP on a Premium is over $37,000.

Who cares what MSRP is, when the cars are widely available at a significant discount? This is my point re: MSRPs (and frankly it applies to Ford as well as GM) - the MSRP is irrelevant when the cars transact at a far lower price.

Originally Posted by ICEing

I thought all Mustang GTs are 5.0Coyotes? Guess I don't know that much about Mustangs. I'm about to if they are selling that cheap. That can definitely leave me some money for a nice supercharger. But then I would just look into the Lebanon Ford Dealership.

Yeah, the "GTs" that were at the top of the cars.com link I initially posted were clearly mislisted as they weren't Coyote cars - but actual GTs (not Premiums) do appear to start at $25k right now, and actual Premium cars look to be ~31k + 0% for 36 or 1.9 for 60 + TTL.

[Zodiac]

The Lebanon package is true $40k will get you the car. No suspension upgrades etc. A base GT with supercharger installed and warranted. They will do anything you want though so you can customize.

Those $25k GT's that were linked definitely are premiums. Can't really say if the pricing is legit.

You can tell it's a premium by the upgraded display and rear diffuser and obviously leather.

EDIT: Those are 4 cylinders.

[Tremek]

Upon further digging it looked as though the Premiums at the top of the list were 2.3 Ecoboosts. The cheapest actual Premium 5.0 I found was the one I linked on the previous page at $31k. Pricing looks legit.

[Bongos2U]

Originally Posted by Tremek

Chevy/GM are in serious trouble if they keep increasing MSRPs. Why?

A brand-new Mustang GT Premium is $25k. That's why.

The vast majority of car buyers out there have weak brand loyalty. I'm one of them. I buy the best cars I can get for my needs and for the price. Mustang GTs being $10k cheaper than the cheapest SSs out there doesn't bode well for SS sales.

This is from that website...http://www.battlefieldfordculpeper.c...ource=cars.com

They're advertising Ecoboost Mustangs as GT's.