01-12-2009, 10:00 AM | #1 |
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Gen-V V8
Ok, so right now I am almost 19 years old. And so far I have wanted this car for over a year now. For me its the get a V8 or go home attitude. (nothing against the V6 group, it truly is a remarkable engine). Anyway, I have been saving my money as best I can, why keeping my truck on the road. I now have about $5,000 saved, and am trying to accelerate the rate that is going up.
Anyway, to get to the point how long does everyone think the LS3 is going to last. I remember reading threads a few months ago about the Gen V v8's that were supposed to come out around this time, (2009 or 2010) but have been put on the backburner. Im my opinion, this is the perfect time to come out with a new V8 with better gas mileage, and honestly if you need more than 426 hp, you probubly dont care to much about the mileage anyway (So give us less buck for the same bang) . So is it worth buying a used 5th gen V8 withing the next 2 or 3 years, or is GM going to bring out a new V8 possibly direct injection, that will blow the LS3 out of the water in efficency and power. P.S. please dont remind me about insurance payments for a 20 or 21 year old, I already dread the day. (and I do work and pay for everything myself) |
01-12-2009, 10:15 AM | #2 |
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Back when the first news came out, the Gen V V8s weren't going into production until 2011. We've seen contracts that prove that. And you know the trucks and the Corvette would be getting them first...the Camaro probably won't see one until at least 2012. And that's assuming they haven't been put on hold like you said.:(
Long story short, if you don't mind waiting another 4/5 years, then wait, otherwise don't hold your breath. Also, the new engines probably won't be anymore powerful than the LS3. They'll most likely use the Direct Injection technology to increase efficiency and reduce emissions while maintaining current power levels in a smaller displacement motor. Think of a 5.3 or 5.7L 380horse, 25/26mpg Camaro or something...that's their goal, I believe. fwiw... |
01-12-2009, 12:01 PM | #3 |
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I'm very excited about the release of those engines. Does anyone know if they'll be pushrod or would they possibly be OHC?
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01-12-2009, 12:24 PM | #5 |
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No idea. There's conflicting info leading to BOTH. That is, some variants with ohv, and others with ohc. But that doesn't make any sense...
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01-12-2009, 12:32 PM | #6 |
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I remember reading an article where a manufacturer (GM, I think...) was using electronic actuators to open and close the valves, eliminating the need for valvetrains that we see now; all controlled by the engine controller. I don't know that the article was saying that was Gen V technology but I think, from what we've seen, that it'll be what Dragon' has posted. It was a cool article though.
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Just brainstorming here, but it seems GM needs great technology, while at the same time, needs to watch its R&D budgets.
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01-12-2009, 03:17 PM | #9 | |
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I may or may not get a gen V 5th gen. Depends on when it comes out. I will be ready to buy my car in 2011 or so. I might wait 1 MY for that engine but no more.
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01-12-2009, 04:31 PM | #10 | |
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I also remember reading about a stillborn V10 based off an LS1 that made boatloads more power that the 454 truck engine (even the 496 later.) If I have a choice, later, between an FI Gen IV or a NA Gen V, I think I would go toward the Gen IV. I'm all about the brute power and if it takes the Gen IV to get me that, that's the direction I'll go. It will be an interesting next few years in so many ways
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One more reason I'm glad I have to wait for the 2012 MY... possibilities of a new GEN V beast. I remember reading an article where it was pushing 450 horses in an Escalade.
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01-12-2009, 06:36 PM | #13 |
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From a strictly performance-oriented perspective, I would be excited about the new technology if I wasn't so concerned about the lost aftermarket. If they start the Generation V too soon, then some aftermarket support for the previous Camaro platform will be diverted, resulting in a strongly supported 2005 to 2009 Mustang and a somewhat supported Camaro. Don't get me wrong. I think that the Camaro will make a splash regardless of when the Generation V is released. I just think that companies will focus on the new technology, leaving those behind that are using the old technology. This is exactly what happened when Cobalt LS and LT owners with the e16a ECM were abandoned by such companies as HPTuners because a new ECM was implemented. The 2007 tune was created long before the 2005 tune, and many tuners traded their Cobalts rather than waiting any longer than the 2 years they had already waited.
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