11-19-2008, 11:33 AM | #1 |
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Brakes for the 500+ HP crowd
I searched and found nothing on this so I registered to put it past you guys. I was looking at the specs for the rear brakes on the CTS-V and they are listed as 14.37x1.10 with aluminum four-pot calipers. The rears on the SS are listed as 14.4x1.10 so this tells me two things.
1. Those guys who will be either camming the LS3 or going FI could use the 14.57x1.34 six piston front brakes from the CTS-V as a "Big Brake Kit" which would work since the CTS is even heavier than the SS and stops from 60 in 109ft. 2. The CTS-V runs on 19" rims so at least we know we can at least fit 19's if not 18's for drag radials. What do you guys think? |
11-19-2008, 12:11 PM | #2 |
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Sounds promising
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11-19-2008, 01:40 PM | #3 |
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Just because the rotors are similar doesn't mean the brakes are interchangeable. The caliper mount could be different, even the bolt circle could be different (though it probably wont be). The CTS-V is sigma and the Camaro is a modified Zeta so they could easily be different.
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11-19-2008, 02:41 PM | #4 |
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I'm checking now, but I believe there is at least a six-piston aluminum/iron brake upgrade for the V, but think they come with six-pot silver calipers stock. The upgrade includes red calipers and two-piece rotors without slots. I think this would be a great upgrade if either the calipers would fit or someone fabricate some billet adapters. The OEM 4-pot SS calipers and 14-plus-inch brakes should prove pretty stout as it is though. But hey - to each his own
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11-19-2008, 02:44 PM | #5 |
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14.57" X 1.34" slotted co-cast (iron disc/aluminum hat) six-piston caliper front brakes and 14.37" X 1.10" four-piston rear rotors.
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11-19-2008, 02:50 PM | #6 | |
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11-19-2008, 10:24 PM | #7 | |
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Spend $100 on some steel braided lines if it already doesn't have them and then take the rest of your money and buy some more engine mods... ever hear "if it ain't broke don't fix it".... this is one of those times.
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11-20-2008, 01:57 PM | #8 | |
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I'm also not saying that you NEED bigger brakes on this car, it already does have a lot of brakes and I personally am not sold on all that six-pistol caliper crap. My e30 has single piston calipers and 10.24in rotors all around and they can still lock up drag radials. You are entirely correct in that braided SS lines, combined with a good pad will add more than sufficient braking power most of the time. That said there is a reason why GM blessed the CTS-V and the Corvette ZR-1 (which is a much lighter car) with larger brakes. Personally brakes are an area where I don't want to save money that's where I want to spend it, brakes keep me alive a lot of time. If you want to go quickly at more places than just the drag strip more power = more brakes. It the reason why the SS has bigger brakes than the LS/LT and the reason I would spend and extra grand or two on brakes because I'm already spending 4k+ on suspension and 6k+ on a supercharger. |
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11-20-2008, 02:59 PM | #9 | |
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The stock brakes on the SS will handle anything you can put into the chassis. Leave well enough alone.
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11-20-2008, 04:36 PM | #11 |
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I thought one of the GM add-ons that were going to be shown at SEMA and there was a video showing, was a big-brake upgrade for the Camaro.
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11-20-2008, 06:24 PM | #12 | |
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I understand your feelings but engineers from GM and Brembo designed this system for this car to brake exceptionally well, its an exquisite system, and you will get almost no gains for your money. Don't bother.
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11-21-2008, 10:59 AM | #13 |
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Well like all mods the car needs to be driven first to determine what's needed/wanted. More than likely the stock brakes will hit ABS with any street tire so you're more than likely correct. Only way you would need to upgrade is if it has fade problems but I have a feeling it wont. After all bigger brakes add unsprung mass and if you're right about them not being needed for braking power then they would just slow acceleration. At least my observation still stands and we know we can fit at least 19" rims for radials...
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11-21-2008, 12:49 PM | #14 | |
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