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Old 12-07-2013, 09:26 PM   #1
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LFX TUNE

I've read a bunch of forums saying that the trifecta tune is great and amazing, etc.
Last time I posted about tunes, everyone said don't bother with trifecta and get a dyno tune, etc.

On Phastek's website, they have a bone stock LFX with the tune and had a 24hp/17 torque increase, plus overall higher numbers through the whole graph.
All the dyno shops around me want $600+ and don't from what I've heard when I called they don't really have experience tuning a LFX camaro, so they couldn't give me an estimate on gains. I know they know what they are doing but I've heard the LFX is a bit tricky? Not sure but that's what people said.

I like the idea of trifecta since you get lifetime updates and don't have to go back to a dyno shop and pay more for changes.
I know there are other options like HP tuners and EFILIVE but I don't really want to spend 800+ on a tune. For an LFX, that almost seems pointless because I don't think it would give me that much more power or tuning than the trifecta and it's also double the cost.
That's just an assumption, correct me if I'm wrong.
If you have trifecta or even a different tune, let's hear your opinions
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:40 PM   #2
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I'm really interested about this too... I've heard don't go Trifecta, but rather IPF.
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3rd me. I wanna know this EXACT thing also.


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Old 12-07-2013, 10:57 PM   #4
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I'm really interested about this too... I've heard don't go Trifecta, but rather IPF.
I've heard the trifecta and IPF both have the same expected gains.. One thing that's cool that I saw with trifecta is that you can have CEL's turned off and stay off? For example, I have a CEL from what I believe to be is by my high flow cats, and the dealership says nothing is wrong so it'd be cool to have that light off. Don't know if IPF does that. But I have seen the IPF for 450$, plus a 600$ deposit for the cable. That seems a little pricey, I'd rather spend 465$ and change my tune whenever.
But like my original post said, other tuners that are like $800+, it doesn't seem like they would be worth it because if I'm paying double, I would expect double the power increase, which I highly doubt would happen ha
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:17 PM   #5
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Found this but it only says 2010 camaro.. Hmmm.
http://www.kpe-products.com/shop/cam...ed-to-cart=272

700$. Trifecta is 465 with the flash cable. Wonder what you get/lose for spending 235$ more with IPF
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IPF is the better option (in my opinion) for the 10 and 11 models b/c they are using a different ECM. Tuning for the LFX is more accessible and you should realize decent gains with any tuning option.

That said, if you could get someone to do a real dyno tune who knows what they are doing that is always the best route to get the safest tune and the most power.

IPF and Trifecta are not the only options for tuning the LFX...I think HP tuners offers something as well.
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Old 12-08-2013, 03:17 PM   #7
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IPF is the better option (in my opinion) for the 10 and 11 models b/c they are using a different ECM. Tuning for the LFX is more accessible and you should realize decent gains with any tuning option.

That said, if you could get someone to do a real dyno tune who knows what they are doing that is always the best route to get the safest tune and the most power.

IPF and Trifecta are not the only options for tuning the LFX...I think HP tuners offers something as well.
Yeah EFILIVE And HP TUNERS are available, but I'm not trying to spend 800$+ on a tune. I mean it's a v6, so without turbo'd or anything, I couldn't imagine there being that big of a difference from the dyno, hp tuners, etc, aside from trifecta.
I mean the price is double the price of trifecta, so what, spend double and get maybe a couple extra hp/torque? Doesn't seem worth it to me, but I'm no expert which is why I'm asking you guys!!
All the LLT members on here seem to love trifecta
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For example.. I would rather spend 400$ for a 15 hp increase than pay 800$ for a 20hp increase. Make sense? Ha
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Also,
What Does trisected tune besides the transmission?
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For example.. I would rather spend 400$ for a 15 hp increase than pay 800$ for a 20hp increase. Make sense? Ha
I agree with this, 5HP gain for double the price seems a little to much.
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*trifecta ha oops
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:35 PM   #12
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I agree with this, 5HP gain for double the price seems a little to much.
Ya I haven't seen any Dino sheets from HP tuners or IPF, but from what I have read trifecta knows what they are doing and I don't really see how any of the other tunes could be all that much better.. Trifecta seems to be the best bang for the buck. Right now you can get it from Phastek 437 shipped with cable
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I mean, I remember seeing this a while back, but I haven't asked or inquired about it... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=10
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All the LLT members on here seem to love trifecta
I had Trifecta on my 2010. Ran it for a long time and ended up going back to stock and noticed no difference. In fact I thought my car was starting to get sluggish and when I went back to stock it seemed to wake up again. Besides the tune to the transmission, the rest seemed like a waste. There are multiple other members who have done the same, and then again there some LLT Trifecta users that seem satisfied with their tune.

But comparing LLT to the LFX for tunes is like comparing apples to oranges. The Bosch ECM is a different animal from the Delphi in the LFX.

LFX has much more tuning support, and seems to get better results with a tune, so I'm guessing the Trifecta option for LFX will get decent results.

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I mean, I remember seeing this a while back, but I haven't asked or inquired about it... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=10
That is a custom dyno tune by Matt with FSP in florida. He does a great job down there.
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