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Indyblue98 · 05-10-2012, 09:20 AM

Bought a new 2SS L99 car a few weeks back

Been driving rather conservative like the break in proccess in the manual.
Not going over 80 mph or over 4000 rpm no Wide open Throttle.

So today its a little over 800 miles.
Take off rather aggressive hit 4000 in 1st click to 2nd and go to half throttle,,, then think "what the H ,go for it",, mash the pedal all the way down

Very little difference from 50% to 100% ,, at least below 4000 rpm.
So I back off and go to 3rd.:(
Reminded me of the Old Smokey and the Bandit 79 Trans Am I used to have, tons of low end torque off the line then flat lined about 4000.

Does it get alot better if you run the tach up to 6000?
Still got a ways to go on the break-in , but a dissapointment for sure.

As a reference, my current other cars 2004 GTP Supercahrged Grand Prix.
2007 STS-V Cadillac with Supercharged 4.4 litre 470HP
Prior cars
2002 WS6 Trans Am.
1998 Pace Car Corvette
1989 Turbo V-6 Trans am
Ect Ect back to 1974 Super Duty 455 Trans Am.

Fiveg56 · 05-10-2012, 09:22 AM

Should have got the V6

orangejuice · 05-10-2012, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiveg56

Should have got the V6

Lmao.

I felt the same way. I have 5k on mine now and she's good. The higher RPM's is where its at/

Camarowguy · 05-10-2012, 09:24 AM

It doesn't start pulling until 4000

JamesNoBrakes · 05-10-2012, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indyblue98

Bought a new 2SS L99 car a few weeks back

Been driving rather conservative like the break in proccess in the manual.
Not going over 80 mph or over 4000 rpm no Wide open Throttle.

So today its a little over 800 miles.
Take off rather aggressive hit 4000 in 1st click to 2nd and go to half throttle,,, then think "what the H ,go for it",, mash the pedal all the way down

Very little difference from 50% to 100% ,, at least below 4000 rpm.
So I back off and go to 3rd.:(
Reminded me of the Old Smokey and the Bandit 79 Trans Am I used to have, tons of low end torque off the line then flat lined about 4000.

Does it get alot better if you run the tach up to 6000?
Still got a ways to go on the break-in , but a dissapointment for sure.

As a reference, my current other cars 2004 GTP Supercahrged Grand Prix.
2007 STS-V Cadillac with Supercharged 4.4 litre 470HP
Prior cars
2002 WS6 Trans Am.
1998 Pace Car Corvette
1989 Turbo V-6 Trans am
Ect Ect back to 1974 Super Duty 455 Trans Am.

My WRX accelerated like a mofo at 3K-5K.

My SS doesn't really pull hard until past 4K, keep it in the top of the RPM range for best results.

E.T. · 05-10-2012, 09:45 AM

Some of it could just be the auto tranny. I've noticed that sometimes it won't downshift even if you floor it; it just runs out whatever gear you're in, sometimes giving a lackluster performance. For example, I'm waiting at a light to turn left onto an on ramp. I turn the corner and can't floor it of course, so I give it moderate throttle. Then once I'm straight, I can step on it and it revs up, but it will just stay in 2nd gear. I'm assuming this is because my speed/revs are too high for it to downshift back into first.

Anyway, long story short, it might be best to just floor it. That way you're making your intentions clear to the computer. That is, you want it to downshift as much as possible and GO

Also, try paddle shifting. That way you can be in the gear you want, when you want. Lots of fun

Finally, the stock tune is pretty conservative and torque management is a real bummer. A tune for the auto tranny really wakes up that 6.2L beast under the hood.

The "beef" is there. GM just really neutered it from the factory, IMO.

Sir Nuke · 05-10-2012, 09:52 AM

Find a nice secluded spot, just put it in SPORT mode, don't use the paddle shifters, hit the gas, and let her unwind!

Thyshallsmite · 05-10-2012, 09:54 AM

Put it in sport mode and get a CAI w/scoop

Indyblue98 · 05-10-2012, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

It doesn't start pulling until 4000

Must be why the manual says to avoid during break in.

Coltrane · 05-10-2012, 10:07 AM

Should have got the LS3.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

COLT45 · 05-10-2012, 10:12 AM

I have an Auto 2SS and if you are at a standing stop and you floor it and don let up you will feel the power don't quit at 4k go all the way and you will be a lot happier.

COLT45 · 05-10-2012, 10:18 AM

I got a question what happens if you dont wait till 5k miles to get on it. I had a little over 1200 and could not pass up a good race.

TastyBake · 05-10-2012, 10:20 AM

I got the V6 but I assume its the shifting.

I agree to go with the padded shifters and leave it in a gear for a while longer.

Engines are already broken in from the factory and 800 is ok to get it up there (my guess).

Indyblue98 · 05-10-2012, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLT45

I have an Auto 2SS and if you are at a standing stop and you floor it and don let up you will feel the power don't quit at 4k go all the way and you will be a lot happier.

I guess part of my question is : Why is there so little difference between 50% throttle and wide open ?

Plan on getting it fixed soon...need to get through the break in .

ADM Performance of Dallas is scheduled for a Whipple install.

05-10-2012, 09:20 AM	#1
Indyblue98 2012 RS 2ss Drives: 2018 ZL1 2012 2SS WhippleCharged Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kansas Posts: 414	2ss Automatic ...Wheres the Beef ? Bought a new 2SS L99 car a few weeks back Been driving rather conservative like the break in proccess in the manual. Not going over 80 mph or over 4000 rpm no Wide open Throttle. So today its a little over 800 miles. Take off rather aggressive hit 4000 in 1st click to 2nd and go to half throttle,,, then think "what the H ,go for it",, mash the pedal all the way down Very little difference from 50% to 100% ,, at least below 4000 rpm. So I back off and go to 3rd.:( Reminded me of the Old Smokey and the Bandit 79 Trans Am I used to have, tons of low end torque off the line then flat lined about 4000. Does it get alot better if you run the tach up to 6000? Still got a ways to go on the break-in , but a dissapointment for sure. As a reference, my current other cars 2004 GTP Supercahrged Grand Prix. 2007 STS-V Cadillac with Supercharged 4.4 litre 470HP Prior cars 2002 WS6 Trans Am. 1998 Pace Car Corvette 1989 Turbo V-6 Trans am Ect Ect back to 1974 Super Duty 455 Trans Am.

05-10-2012, 09:24 AM	#4
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	It doesn't start pulling until 4000 __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

05-10-2012, 09:45 AM	#6
E.T. Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 3,267	Some of it could just be the auto tranny. I've noticed that sometimes it won't downshift even if you floor it; it just runs out whatever gear you're in, sometimes giving a lackluster performance. For example, I'm waiting at a light to turn left onto an on ramp. I turn the corner and can't floor it of course, so I give it moderate throttle. Then once I'm straight, I can step on it and it revs up, but it will just stay in 2nd gear. I'm assuming this is because my speed/revs are too high for it to downshift back into first. Anyway, long story short, it might be best to just floor it. That way you're making your intentions clear to the computer. That is, you want it to downshift as much as possible and GO Also, try paddle shifting. That way you can be in the gear you want, when you want. Lots of fun Finally, the stock tune is pretty conservative and torque management is a real bummer. A tune for the auto tranny really wakes up that 6.2L beast under the hood. The "beef" is there. GM just really neutered it from the factory, IMO. __________________

05-10-2012, 09:52 AM	#7
Sir Nuke Master of All Things Drives: '20 Corvette Stingray Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas Posts: 22,331 View My Garage	Find a nice secluded spot, just put it in SPORT mode, don't use the paddle shifters, hit the gas, and let her unwind! __________________

05-10-2012, 09:22 AM	#2
Fiveg56 Drives: - Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MN Posts: 1,654 View My Garage	Should have got the V6

05-10-2012, 09:54 AM	#8
Thyshallsmite Drives: 2011 Grand sport c6 corvette Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 305	Put it in sport mode and get a CAI w/scoop

05-10-2012, 10:07 AM	#10
Coltrane Account Suspended Drives: Camaro Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 247	Should have got the LS3. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

05-10-2012, 10:12 AM	#11
COLT45 Drives: 2012 Camaro SS2 45th Anniversary Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 33	I have an Auto 2SS and if you are at a standing stop and you floor it and don let up you will feel the power don't quit at 4k go all the way and you will be a lot happier.

05-10-2012, 10:18 AM	#12
COLT45 Drives: 2012 Camaro SS2 45th Anniversary Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 33	I got a question what happens if you dont wait till 5k miles to get on it. I had a little over 1200 and could not pass up a good race.

05-10-2012, 10:20 AM	#13
TastyBake Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT/RS Black Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 973	I got the V6 but I assume its the shifting. I agree to go with the padded shifters and leave it in a gear for a while longer. Engines are already broken in from the factory and 800 is ok to get it up there (my guess).