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02-27-2012, 02:24 PM | #72 | |
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I'll say one thing ... both cars have come a long way for sure! .. BTW .. it is interesting that early on, when they go under the bridge or sign or whatever it is .. the ZL1 is already 5MPH ahead at that time .. .. some corners you can see the ZL1 having a good 12mph advantage ... that is awesome. Crowley
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02-27-2012, 02:43 PM | #73 |
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I want the ZL1 to be my roadcourse car.
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02-27-2012, 02:44 PM | #74 | |
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You're totally right; these cars are so much farther now it's crazy. When they were young, I don't know that there were many comparisons to the-then-supercars in any other way than straight line performance. Now, it's not entirely unreasonable to compare them in about all the major performance regimes. Still - I don't call any GM car a supercar - but they are definately SUPER cars; the same holds true for Ford. Well - in fact - I did consider the GT a supercar, and still think it is; that's mostly because of the outrageous styling, among a couple other things. I still don't call Corvette a supercar because it's styling isn't Aventador-crazy (which I'm glad, because I truly love the 6th Gen design). Like I said - they perform on-par and even exceed many, but supercars they are not. That's fine by me - I'd rather go good than look good
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There .. that is signature material
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02-27-2012, 02:51 PM | #77 |
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If I may - I've been thinking...
I'm thinking ZL1 could be better for road courses, where the suspension would likely outperform the Snake, but, something longer, like the 'Ring, the Snake would excel because it could take more advantage of the straights with it's power. I maintain I think ZL1 will still be more than competitive in the twisties, but if you give that Snake enough space, it's going to be tough to stay out front. That leads me to my next question - how would they compare on an autocross? ZL1 is heavier, but could bite harder, and there's less room for a lot of powre. The Snake is lighter, and suspension may not bite as hard in the corners, but can't use all of it's power... It's clear to me GM and Ford are taking these cars in diverging directions perhaps, the more I think about it. While less downforce in ZL1 might enable high-180s and maybe bottom 190-top speeds, Ford is taking the Snake clear to 200. While it has considerably more power, it will be interesting to see what aerodynamics it has in comparison to ZL1. I know they're improved over the last Snake, but I think GM kinda' favored more downforce instead of top speed. That seems a fair trade-off, because what tracks are you going to use 200 MPH? Not the 'Ring, where GM likes to go. Hmm... I'm almost more curious about the Snake than ZL1, lol You know what they say about the enemy
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02-27-2012, 02:51 PM | #78 |
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If you saw me, you'd understand why that's so true
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02-27-2012, 02:52 PM | #79 |
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LMAO !!
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02-27-2012, 03:01 PM | #80 | |
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nice!
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02-27-2012, 03:01 PM | #81 |
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ZL1 VIR lap video
That ZL1 just keep looking better and better with each new test...GM's intention was to produce a complete overall performance car (track and street) and the mission is accomplished !!! Watching the video, I can hear my heart thumping and my pulse quicken....
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02-27-2012, 03:12 PM | #82 |
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I know it's been said before, but after watching these two videos and with more and more info coming out on the 2013 snake I just have to say. I don't care if you are a ford or Chevy guy the bottom line is these two companies are building two awesome cars right now. When it's all said and done they are producing two cars that perform on border line super car level for 55-65k and that is awesome. Gotta love american muscle!
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02-27-2012, 03:17 PM | #83 |
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I WILL have you, ZL1!!
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02-27-2012, 03:20 PM | #84 |
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ZL1 times will be much better as the weather HEATS UP... !
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