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Frank in MD · 03-04-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by stoopid

Malibu's a fleet car. It's going to be a cold day it truly competes with the Accord in the eyes of the market.

I disagree completely. Product, product, product. That's how you compete and win. Look at Hyundai/Kia, they built cheap and unreliable shitboxes. Now they're a threat to their Japanese rivals and in many circles considered an equal to Toyota and Honda.

GM needs to address the svc. department issues too but if they design a product to not just compete, but exceed the competition, just watch Chevy beat the imports.

I think GM/Ford Chrysler have and edge, as IMO people want to buy American, they just need a reason.

stoopid · 03-04-2015, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank in MD

I disagree completely. Product, product, product. That's how you compete and win. Look at Hyundai/Kia, they built cheap and unreliable shitboxes. Now they're a threat to their Japanese rivals and in many circles considered an equal to Toyota and Honda.

The current Malibu is far from a shit box. The sales aren't terrible, just not top in class. The issue is perception and getting people into the dealership to even test drive one.

I don't see anything they can/will do in a redesign that will change that. People just think "Camry" and "Accord" when they're shopping mid class. Until THAT changes, the best the Malibu can aspire to be is third or fourth fiddle. It's kinda like incumbents in politics - they mostly get reelected by name, not by accomplishments.

Looking at that top 6 objectively, there's just not much wiggle room in there. Competition is stiff. ALL off those cars are decent vehicles. Going back to my first reply, the fact the Camry is still #1 only supports the idea that the market is just stuck on stupid right now. IMO it's the least value among that entire group.

SSJ455 · 03-04-2015, 11:54 AM

I like the new Malibu. If I was looking for a new car, I'd check it out. I wonder how if compares to my Regal GS?

stoopid · 03-04-2015, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJ455

I like the new Malibu. If I was looking for a new car, I'd check it out. I wonder how if compares to my Regal GS?

Definitely the LTZ, the 2.0T is a nice engine match for the Malibu and when fully loaded it's a fine ride.

ArkySS · 03-04-2015, 02:11 PM

Baby Impala and that's a good thing.

RLHMARINES · 03-04-2015, 02:16 PM

Sweet silhouette!

xc_SS/RS · 03-04-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

Sweet silhouette!

Yeah this is going to be a good looking car. Also agree with whoever said something about not seeing what people see in the Camry. There will never be a more vanilla vehicle period.

Frank in MD · 03-04-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stoopid

The current Malibu is far from a shit box.

I never said they were.

stoopid · 03-04-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank in MD

I never said they were.

It's your analogy, not mine.

KMPrenger · 03-04-2015, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stoopid

It's your analogy, not mine.

Read again...that's not what he said when talking about the Malibu.

Anyways, the last gen Malibu was a huge success.

This latest gen wasn't.

Hopefully this one will go back in that direction in sales terms.

TastyBake · 03-04-2015, 04:08 PM

I hated the existing model. That middle console traps you so you have very little space.
I'm glad I got rid of it when I rented it.

snarky · 03-04-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I fear we may end up with Nissan's problem for a while: Altima stepping on Maxima's toes.

Impala is still supposed to be a bigger car so we'll have to see how this works out.

The Impala is BIG ENOUGH ! jeez, sit in that thing and the dash is like being on the bridge of the Starship Enterprise.

Jason@JacFab · 03-04-2015, 05:24 PM

Is this new Malibu based on the Alpha platform as well?

oachalon · 03-04-2015, 05:35 PM

No, its on the E2XX platform which replaces the epsilon platform. Alpha is rwd platform only. Malibu is FWD.

03-04-2015, 11:54 AM	#17
SSJ455 Drives: "Kara Zor-El" 2017 2SS HBM Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lower Hudson Valley Posts: 2,036 View My Garage	I like the new Malibu. If I was looking for a new car, I'd check it out. I wonder how if compares to my Regal GS? __________________ Lead me not into temptation. I already know the way. Lana? Lana? LANA! LAAANAAAA!!!! What? Dangerzoooooone.

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ArkySS Camaroless for now... Drives: 2014 Blue Topaz Silverado Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,411	Baby Impala and that's a good thing. __________________ It was fun while it lasted.....

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RLHMARINES 1st Civ. Div. Drives: Camaroless for now...RIP "Big SexZ" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 2,726	Sweet silhouette! __________________ Swift....Silent....Deadly

03-04-2015, 05:35 PM	#28
oachalon Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mentor, Ohio Posts: 999 View My Garage	No, its on the E2XX platform which replaces the epsilon platform. Alpha is rwd platform only. Malibu is FWD. __________________ 2010 1SS/RS LS3 M6 Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger, 3.00" Pulley, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power LT Headers, LPE Dual Fuel Pump, ID850's, Custom Grind Cam, Katzkin Leather/Suede Interior 630RWHP mustang dyno.

03-04-2015, 04:08 PM	#25
TastyBake Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT/RS Black Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 973	I hated the existing model. That middle console traps you so you have very little space. I'm glad I got rid of it when I rented it.

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Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	Is this new Malibu based on the Alpha platform as well?