06-05-2009, 10:30 AM | #15 |
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UCF's numbers are not entirely correct, he is not at fault, but cars are not showing on his scans, mine still does not show #13345 and #13346 a LT m-6 showed one morning and disappeared by noon. mine was built a week ago, 2SS, have no idea if it's shipped but VIN does show up at GM site with price only but no detail, so no matter how hard UCF tries I doubt all preorders will show up, so we really do not know how many R6P cars are built. Also my dealer got in two preorders, both 1SS, one person backed out of order, I will find details today and post because the 1SS is available for sale at msrp.
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06-05-2009, 10:37 AM | #17 | |
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But here is how I understand it. There are are two problems. The most common is you have a R6P or pre ordered from a dealer that is way low on the allocation priority list. The other is you ordered from a dealer that has already filled its allocation so you would be possibly waiting till after Oct for your car. So yes you are still an R6P order but The dealer can't guarantee that you will have your car before OCT. Only the R6P order that fell withing the original allocation for SORP are supposed to be filled by Oct. I'll leave this one up for debate. But that is how I understand it to work. Anyone else?
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06-05-2009, 10:38 AM | #19 |
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It's True my car arrived yesterday in Mt. Pleasant, Mi and left Pontiac early that day. Perks of being in MI is that it only took five hours to get to me. VIN 5952 is home, picking up after work today.
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Can you please comment on my post also...
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06-05-2009, 10:39 AM | #21 |
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Yes, despite not yet being built, their order still has the R6P code. That is, of course, unless they were victim of the glitch that was dropping this code (and/or WRS) off.
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06-05-2009, 10:42 AM | #22 |
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Yes. Initial allocation was given to all dealers back in September-October. It was only a guide because there was a possibility that the number may change somewhat. So far, the guide number given last fall is fairly accurate with many dealers being given an extra car or two. I know my dealer got one more and I think Newman Chevrolet (CamaroScotty) got 2 more.
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06-05-2009, 10:44 AM | #23 | |
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The National allocation plan was federally approved before the start of regular production for the Camaro. If you ordered as part of your dealers original allocation then you could expect your car no later than Oct. If not then it's anyones guess when you will get your car.
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06-05-2009, 10:46 AM | #24 |
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Let me start by saying, I have not ordered a car yet, so I don't really understand people's aggravation due to the waiting process, but I can appreciate the desire to get your car. With that said, I think people are being a bit unrealistic with all the complaining about the pre-order process.
Think about it from a business standpoint. GM would be best served by not having any pre-order process. The car's would generate the most revenue for the dealer network, and ultimately require GM to provide less incentives to the dealers if they did not have a pre-order program. Many people were able to negotiate MSRP for this car before most dealers knew what was coming. Now that the demand is obvious to the dealers, very few are willing to sell the car at sticker price. GM did this program, at their expense, to help build loyal fans and repeat customers. Most people here would have had to fight on ebay to get a car in the first 2-3 months, and virtually none of them would be sold at MSRP. If the bean counters were truly running GM, they would not be building R6P cars at all right now, because those are sold orders already, and in many cases the dealer is not getting "market value". They would be building dealer lot cars to maximize dealer profit and keep them in the black. Yes, some people get their car off the lot before others get their R6P cars, but in many cases it is due to somebody backing out of an R6P order, so that person just was in the right place at the right time. Last thought: I don't understand why people say they have been waiting 7 months for their car. You ordered in October knowing production didn't start until February, and that was pushed back for all cars by a month. So at best, you have been waiting since mid-March, which is only a bit more than 2 months. The time before production was well known ahead of time, so stop counting that as wait time.
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06-05-2009, 10:52 AM | #27 |
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Yep...the pre-order deal turned out to be a big pile of dung for GM I think. Hope they learn something from it. I just get so tired of seeing post after post after post where someone has ordered in March, April, or May, and their car is either in transit or they are posting pictures of it in their driveway. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for these people. It could have easily been me instead of them but this goes to show just how big a screwed up mess the pre-order process has been. I certainly won't ever do it again I can tell you that. I really don't like to get mad and irratated but have been pushed into that mode....and that really pisses me off...
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GM used the preorder process to give them a guide as to what option configurations would be most popular. This allowed them to order parts from their suppliers more accurately which reduces overhead and also maximizes efficiency of the assembly line for the demand. While I agree that this has been a pain to dealers and customers, the benefit to GM itself has trumped all other concerns. GM really doesn't much care what a dealer sells the car for. It's not their money. They get paid invoice (or thereabouts) whether the car sells for $20,000 or $100,000. As my scan has shown, 45% of the orders built right now are not preorders at all. Yes, some preorder cars have become available due to financing and other issues but that's not the concern here. Our concern is about the cars being built. |
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