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L99CAMA2011 · 05-27-2012, 08:41 PM

So guys from your experience which brand shorty headers, JBA, ARH, Doug Thorley, BBK and any other you know of that I don't, do you think offers the best performance from what little the offer.

Lou@ARH · 05-28-2012, 11:37 AM

L99Cam, I am not sure if you're aware but our shorty headers are t he only 50 State Legal of the bunch and offer features others don't. We use 304 S/S 1-3/4" primaries with merge style collectors and scavenger spikes. The primaries all have considerable length, the shortest being 7-1/2". In fact our shorties are so unique that they are going thru the patent process as we speak. They also come with our ARH ignition wire cool socks. They do cost more but I assure you they will last indefinitely and perform to your expectations.

PM me a contact number and I'll reach with more details including price. Thanks

Lou
A.R. Headers

Smirnoff · 05-28-2012, 12:03 PM

Your stock exhaust manifolds......go with LTH!

mikeSS · 05-28-2012, 12:13 PM

ya probs that new ARH one.

bilydean · 05-29-2012, 12:52 AM

Not looking to jam anyone, but the JBA shorties are CARB approved as well (EO# D-57-25)

Dean

VADER SS L99 · 05-29-2012, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou@ARH

L99Cam, I am not sure if you're aware but our shorty headers are t he only 50 State Legal of the bunch and offer features others don't. We use 304 S/S 1-3/4" primaries with merge style collectors and scavenger spikes. The primaries all have considerable length, the shortest being 7-1/2". In fact our shorties are so unique that they are going thru the patent process as we speak. They also come with our ARH ignition wire cool socks. They do cost more but I assure you they will last indefinitely and perform to your expectations.

PM me a contact number and I'll reach with more details including price. Thanks

Lou
A.R. Headers

If I did shorties this would be the only one I would consider. The others look like a waste of money IMO. Someone here replaced DT shorties and high flow cats with LT headers and high flow cats and gained like 25RWHP. Same day same dyno. That tells me those shorties were not worth much if anything to begin with.

BlaqWhole · 05-29-2012, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

If I did shorties this would be the only one I would consider. The others look like a waste of money IMO. Someone here replaced DT shorties and high flow cats with LT headers and high flow cats and gained like 25RWHP. Same day same dyno. That tells me those shorties were not worth much if anything to begin with.

I personally am going with short tube headers. Mainly because I don't want to be married to a tuner. With long tubes you have to keep a tune on your car at all times...from what I've read. Short tube headers don't have that problem. Of course the benefits of LTs vs STs are quite well documented...but if you've looked at stock manifolds and compared them to ST headers you will see a huge difference which will translate to better performance.

BlaqWhole · 05-29-2012, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

So guys from your experience which brand shorty headers, JBA, ARH, Doug Thorley, BBK and any other you know of that I don't, do you think offers the best performance from what little the offer.

From what I've seen the BBK offer the least expensive headers...if cost is an issue. I think the ARH are nice tho...

E.T. · 05-29-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

If I did shorties this would be the only one I would consider. The others look like a waste of money IMO. Someone here replaced DT shorties and high flow cats with LT headers and high flow cats and gained like 25RWHP. Same day same dyno. That tells me those shorties were not worth much if anything to begin with.

Most of the gains probably came from the high flow cats. The stock manifold is supposed to flow pretty well.

I'd either keep the stock manifold and add HF cats (actually, I did) or just get LT headers.

caverman · 05-29-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by E.T.

Most of the gains probably came from the high flow cats. The stock manifold is supposed to flow pretty well.

I'd either keep the stock manifold and add HF cats (actually, I did) or just get LT headers.

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L99CAMA2011 · 05-31-2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by E.T.

Most of the gains probably came from the high flow cats. The stock manifold is supposed to flow pretty well.

I'd either keep the stock manifold and add HF cats (actually, I did) or just get LT headers.

You just added hi flo cats huh. I may consider this. What brand did you get. Also how is your car with all the mods you did vs stock. And y not 3.91 gears vs 3.70s. I too was thinking 3.70s.

IndeedSS1 · 05-31-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

You just added hi flo cats huh. I may consider this. What brand did you get. Also how is your car with all the mods you did vs stock. And y not 3.91 gears vs 3.70s. I too was thinking 3.70s.

He has SOLO cats and an automatic (I believe) and why the 3.70, I'd assume.

VanquisherSS · 05-31-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by E.T.

Most of the gains probably came from the high flow cats. The stock manifold is supposed to flow pretty well.

I'd either keep the stock manifold and add HF cats (actually, I did) or just get LT headers.

Just to clarify I had DT Shorties and the Solos at the time. After swapping both to LTs I did gain 25rwhp/15rwtq

IndeedSS1 · 05-31-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by VanquisherSS

Just to clarify I had DT Shorties and the Solos at the time. After swapping both to LTs I did gain 25rwhp/15rwtq

How many other mods did you have when going from shorties to LTs?

05-27-2012, 08:41 PM	#1
L99CAMA2011 Drives: One of the baddest handling Gen 5s Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Masachusetts Posts: 4,177	Shorty header comparison. So guys from your experience which brand shorty headers, JBA, ARH, Doug Thorley, BBK and any other you know of that I don't, do you think offers the best performance from what little the offer.

05-28-2012, 12:03 PM	#3
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05-29-2012, 12:52 AM	#5
bilydean Drives: One of the rare ABM camaros Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 455 View My Garage	Not looking to jam anyone, but the JBA shorties are CARB approved as well (EO# D-57-25) Dean __________________ 1100 4/28 2000 5/23 3000 5/27 3400 6/20 TPW of 6/29 3800 7/3 4D00 7/8 interned at QC 4B00 7/16 Released from QC 4200 7/20 8/5 We picked up the car

05-28-2012, 11:37 AM	#2
Lou@ARH Drives: IRS RECORD HOLDING 5thGEN 7.67 @179 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Deer Park, NY Posts: 175 View My Garage	L99Cam, I am not sure if you're aware but our shorty headers are t he only 50 State Legal of the bunch and offer features others don't. We use 304 S/S 1-3/4" primaries with merge style collectors and scavenger spikes. The primaries all have considerable length, the shortest being 7-1/2". In fact our shorties are so unique that they are going thru the patent process as we speak. They also come with our ARH ignition wire cool socks. They do cost more but I assure you they will last indefinitely and perform to your expectations. PM me a contact number and I'll reach with more details including price. Thanks Lou A.R. Headers

05-28-2012, 12:13 PM	#4
mikeSS Drives: 2015 c7 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MI Posts: 7,462	ya probs that new ARH one.