07-14-2009, 12:30 PM | #141 |
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I'm slightly confused on why Tremec puts in a part rated at the exact torque the Camaro gives off. Shouldn't the part be rated at higher torque levels for safety reasons?
I don't know a lot about transmissions but it sounds like Tremec gave the bare minimum they were allowed to give on the part. |
07-14-2009, 12:31 PM | #142 |
[QUOTE=fbodfather;678231]A couple of thoughts --
To those who are 'fed up' with GM and "American Products" -- Every manufacturer has issues such as this. The issue is a supplier problem and it DOES NOT INVOLVE EVERY 6-speed manual transmission. Once again I'll say this: there IS a downside to sharing information....and this is a perfect example of it. news travels way too fast with forums. Case in point, my paint is peeling at the seem between the fender and bumper, it is obvious to me the bumper is not fit correctly, it's too tight, only two others have taken pictures of this exact same problem, percentage wise it is really a small issue, but because of the internet it looks bigger because we can spread the word faster. Our M6 tranny pops out of first when at a light sometimes, when you try to put in back into first it grinds, I'll still trying to evaluate the issue??? furthermore, people can say a lot of things hiding behind a monitor
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Sorry, I LOVE this car, but for me performance is always the driving factor. If I were not in need of a back seat the C5 would have been replaced by a C6 no question. So, while I'm sorry to hear you bail, if you can get away with it, that's the choice I would have made in the first place Quote:
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It's not like there is one entire plant where all they do all day long is spit out output shafts for 6 speed Camaro's. If that's the problem it could be a problem for ALL of that line of product on their end, affecting many different makes / models of vehicles. Which for most any other vehicle on the planet would not be an issue because there's nothing else out there right now with this level of attention & wait for cars to be built per order. This could be happening to 50 other car makes, and no one would even know because 1) there's not THOUSANDS of people watching & waiting for their car, and 2) even if there were... the company wouldn't tell you squat! I'd rather see this then nothing at all & start reading about all the people breaking their cars 6 months from now... The grass is always greener... Ignorance is bliss... blah blah blah Quote:
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The guy standing in the line putting the tranny in may have no clue what's going on, it's not like he's on break cause there's no tranny's and they're not going to stop the production line to pull a car off, it will just get fixed in QC. If Scott is saying there's an issue & they're working on it I'd take his word for it, but to each their own. |
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07-14-2009, 12:38 PM | #144 |
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I see this much more of a vendor issue, tranny supplied to GM. This is what happens with a new product line and outsource for systems or materials - something all companies do nowadays. GM's best hope is the vendor is prepared to move fast and rectify. I believe THAT'S where you can truly judge GM's customer service and production. If the vendor is not leaned on by GM, then you can judeg General Motors but the fault itself, I don't believe is necessarily a GM issue.
Questions would be, did GM do enough extensive testing before marrying this engine and tranny compination ? Apparently they did, this issue has taken time to find. Best they can do, as they are, is get a handle on it asap. I believe they'll work as expeditiously as possible to rectify this. They have little choice given their financial situation and one strong answer to that problem being Camaro sales. As frustrating as this may be, for the same reason you bought this car to begin with, have faith it'll be taken care of. I spoke to my dealer's shop mgr. yesterday and most Chevy Dealer shops are on a strong learning curve with respect to this car, so best it is handled in production rather than a recall and mass demand for shipment of parts countrywide to be installed by 'newbies' in the Chevy shops. Nothing against the 'newbies' but the first several would likely take longer for shops to do. What would you do then, become a thorn in your dealers side, watching through the glass while your car is on the lift ?
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6, nearly 7 pages in this thread in just 4 hours....
I think I'll just wait for the home page to be updated with the results, I can't keep up with this ish, that's just crazy... |
07-14-2009, 12:48 PM | #146 |
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WE took delivery of our 21st new vehicle on July 2 after waiting 9 months. We had VERY high expectations. The 2010 CAMARO met or exceeded them all. Everyone who has seen it or peered under the hood likes it. It has "jaw dropping" impact on many. Of all ages.
I learned 98.0 % of what I needed to know about this car on this site ( NOT FROM THE DEALER). Doing 30 MPH , a SS A6 peeled rubber from both rear tires as he pulled away from me. NO Honda or Toyota can do that. CAMARO5 was important in the time leading up to delivery, it will continue to be more important to the members and GM as we rack the miles up.
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07-14-2009, 12:53 PM | #147 |
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my take. I am a person who grew up on Chevy's/GM's and put my own money into Japanese vehicles and have had good experiences with the products the Japanese have delivered. I am very excited about an american auto makers product (singlular) with the Camaro. I sold new Hondas and Toyotas and many used vehicles of different makes.
Some automakers have better reputations for quality and longevity. The big 3 arent the first that come to mind, despite their marketing efforts over the past few years. there is a stigma that needs to be shaken and that will happen with time if the big 3 can prove their quality. Every car maker has recalls over time. This is a reality, especially with mass produced products. Mistakes happen. this is particularly true with brand new models. I have been very skeptical and even cynical of Big 3 in the past, but I am holding judgement until they have worked out the bugs over the next while. Its gonna happen and society needs to be patient. Hondas and Toyotas have problems too and people get up in arms when they do. I had a problem with one of my Honda's...but I saw it for what it was...a fluke. The quality of GM will be shown in how they respond to problems and what they do to prevent it from happening again. I am not planning on buying a 5th gen until the second year or so because of financial reasons and I also want to see how the car holds up with time and if they take care of the bugs. although it sucks to have problems now, it will get worked out in the end. |
07-14-2009, 01:07 PM | #148 |
If I'm reading correctly, this is just the SS M6, not the V6 M6?
I'm gonna play stupid girl here for a second and assume that those are two different trannys? |
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I am keeping my order. I don't really give a rats ass when i get it. The longer I wait, the more I save up. Way i look at it, its a win win for me. A car that has been checked over and made sure not to have a bum tranny and a little more money in the bank. Only bad thing is it may come in too late to drive it this year... If thats the case I will either keep it or order another one in January so it comes in like April '10. Either way, I will have a 2SS/RS SIM M6 sooner or later!
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07-14-2009, 01:18 PM | #151 |
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LOL.
I ordered my Wrangler Rubicon and four days later Chrysler halted production. Now I've ordered my Camaro SS and two days later it gets put on hold. I can't help but laugh. No complaints though, I'd rather wait than have to take it back.
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while giving my work mechanic a ride in her, i noticed how close to 1500 miles i was. so i stopped in the back ouf our newly blacktopped parking lot, floored it and sidestepped the clutch for the 1st time. i finally had to let off the gas as the rear began to sway after about a 300ft smokeshow. while i don't do this often, ur telling me she wont handle it? there should not be much difference between a 6000rpm clutch sidestep and a 4200rpm competition mode launch.............shouldn't be any harder on the driveline. this car was made to rock and roll.........if it woun't take it, RECALL IT!
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07-14-2009, 01:32 PM | #153 | |
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Some update/clarification -- no hold on production, just on shipments
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thanks coolman
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