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Davidd_SS · 05-25-2016, 04:46 PM

Alright guys need some help, Converting over to E85.
Now, Are Ls9/LsA/zL1 injectors sufficient or is there a better alternative for the cost? Already ordered a zl1 fuel assembly as well as the fpcm. might be going with the dsx flex fuel sensor as well. anything else im missing? car will be getting tuned for both 93/e85. thanks in advance for any input.

Trob85 · 05-25-2016, 05:40 PM

Depends on your power level. Basic math is whatever you need for you hp goals double that for e85.

1KillerSS · 05-25-2016, 05:46 PM

Your going to use a ZL1 fuel pump with an ADM FPCM and some injectors from a ZL1, to run E85?

What kind of power do you plan on making?

fif_gen_powa · 05-25-2016, 05:50 PM

If you are NA the zl1 injectors will work. Have a few cammed ls3 friends running e85 with them no problems. Who is tuning the car?

Davidd_SS · 05-25-2016, 05:56 PM

not going to be fi for a while, my Silverado makes great power off of e85. I know it wont net me anything over 20rwhp tuned with a stock cam. possibly the guys over at lashway or redline in south florida.

fif_gen_powa · 05-25-2016, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Davidd_SS

not going to be fi for a while, my Silverado makes great power off of e85. I know it wont net me anything over 20rwhp tuned with a stock cam. possibly the guys over at lashway or redline in south florida.

You're in miami go with edgard, dsmlights, he did my flex fuel tune and is great to work with. Highly recommended
https://facebook.com/dsmlightstuned/

Davidd_SS · 05-25-2016, 06:14 PM

I've heard about dsmlights, I know he's done a couple of my vett buddies. im not expecting anything crazy with it but its worth it in my opinion. not sure if the setup I want to run is sufficient however, maybe someone whos done it could chime in for a na with bolt ons

fif_gen_powa · 05-25-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Davidd_SS

I've heard about dsmlights, I know he's done a couple of my vett buddies. im not expecting anything crazy with it but its worth it in my opinion. not sure if the setup I want to run is sufficient however, maybe someone whos done it could chime in for a na with bolt ons

I know multiple people personally who have e85 tuned camaros running zl1 pump/injectors some just bolt ons, some cammed. Message him hes tuned all of them he can answer any questions you have

Davidd_SS · 05-25-2016, 06:21 PM

will do, thanks for the help man!

Unreal · 05-25-2016, 07:11 PM

Tuning is nothing really. You turn on flex fuel, and copy in some tables from a flex fuel car. The rest is the same tune as your E0, so if a tuner can do one, he can do flex fuel.

DOC52 · 05-25-2016, 08:58 PM

My tuner recommended fics or id injectors because he doesn't like running LSA/9 injectors on LS3 manifolds. The spray angle is wrong.

pir4te · 05-26-2016, 01:23 AM

You need the flex (ZL1) pump, not the injectors. E38 FPCM stays unchanged for NA, handled by ECU. Use the GM fuel composition sensor, no need to complicate a toothpick.
I'd use a flex tune OS to start rather than flagging bits and copying bobs higgledy piggledy. Ethanol flex can be really fuel efficient, use GM tables and modifiers base tune for 2013 L99 or 2014 VF Commodore.

Unreal · 05-26-2016, 07:17 AM

camaro tune is flex fuel OS.

pir4te · 05-26-2016, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

camaro tune is flex fuel OS.

Ah, not it isn't. Different calibrations required for flex fuel vehicle, massively different. Instead of creating a Frankentune you are much better using a flex base tune.

05-25-2016, 04:46 PM	#1
Davidd_SS Drives: LSX FTW Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 526	E85 HELP Alright guys need some help, Converting over to E85. Now, Are Ls9/LsA/zL1 injectors sufficient or is there a better alternative for the cost? Already ordered a zl1 fuel assembly as well as the fpcm. might be going with the dsx flex fuel sensor as well. anything else im missing? car will be getting tuned for both 93/e85. thanks in advance for any input.

05-25-2016, 05:40 PM	#2
Trob85 Svt lol Drives: 2011 ss inferno orange blown Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Topeka Posts: 2,312	Depends on your power level. Basic math is whatever you need for you hp goals double that for e85. __________________ plasti dip is not a mod.......and a cold air intake doesn't make you fast!

05-25-2016, 05:46 PM	#3
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Your going to use a ZL1 fuel pump with an ADM FPCM and some injectors from a ZL1, to run E85? What kind of power do you plan on making? __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

05-25-2016, 05:50 PM	#4
fif_gen_powa Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Turbo Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,525	If you are NA the zl1 injectors will work. Have a few cammed ls3 friends running e85 with them no problems. Who is tuning the car? __________________ 388ci 91/104 Turbo TH400 8.3@164 https://instagram.com/turbo_ls3/

05-25-2016, 07:11 PM	#10
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Tuning is nothing really. You turn on flex fuel, and copy in some tables from a flex fuel car. The rest is the same tune as your E0, so if a tuner can do one, he can do flex fuel. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

05-25-2016, 05:56 PM	#5
Davidd_SS Drives: LSX FTW Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 526	not going to be fi for a while, my Silverado makes great power off of e85. I know it wont net me anything over 20rwhp tuned with a stock cam. possibly the guys over at lashway or redline in south florida.

05-25-2016, 06:14 PM	#7
Davidd_SS Drives: LSX FTW Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 526	I've heard about dsmlights, I know he's done a couple of my vett buddies. im not expecting anything crazy with it but its worth it in my opinion. not sure if the setup I want to run is sufficient however, maybe someone whos done it could chime in for a na with bolt ons

05-25-2016, 06:21 PM	#9
Davidd_SS Drives: LSX FTW Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 526	will do, thanks for the help man!

05-25-2016, 08:58 PM	#11
DOC52 THE U Drives: Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Northern California Posts: 601	My tuner recommended fics or id injectors because he doesn't like running LSA/9 injectors on LS3 manifolds. The spray angle is wrong. __________________ DOC52 Build Thread Instagram Bay Area Stock Last edited by DOC52; 05-26-2016 at 03:26 AM.

05-26-2016, 01:23 AM	#12
pir4te Moonshiner Drives: Holden SS-V L77 flex fuel Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 166	You need the flex (ZL1) pump, not the injectors. E38 FPCM stays unchanged for NA, handled by ECU. Use the GM fuel composition sensor, no need to complicate a toothpick. I'd use a flex tune OS to start rather than flagging bits and copying bobs higgledy piggledy. Ethanol flex can be really fuel efficient, use GM tables and modifiers base tune for 2013 L99 or 2014 VF Commodore. __________________ Compression is King. Naturally as-pirated, all-motor, all alcohol.

05-26-2016, 07:17 AM	#13
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	camaro tune is flex fuel OS. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp