12-04-2009, 07:23 AM | #43 | |
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12-04-2009, 11:05 AM | #44 | |
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12-04-2009, 11:20 AM | #45 | |
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Small budget, very well done quality cars is what GM needs to be doing. Ford has their new Focus for example... let's be honest people, take a look, sit in them and then compare. They are very nice compared to GM counterparts. GM, Sounds to me that the bleeding must stop before it gets gangrene... anyways, an indebted company should payoff their bills first before they go out and spend again. JMHO.
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12-04-2009, 11:36 AM | #46 |
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For GM to deny themselves the profit and brand excitement that would come from designing, building, and selling a Killer Camaro would be unequivically stupid.
Not to mention that the profit made from selling "gotta have" cars and trucks goes towards operating the rest of the business - including doing all the mandatory regulatory stuff (including making and selling cars at a loss to meet CAFE standards, etc...). Profit from the Camaro and Corvette funds other important (though perhaps less exciting) vehicles. Also, leading edge technology that goes into these types of vehicles often makes it way through to the lower end vehicles over time - so there is long term value in pushing the envelope. Of course, if the business case doesn't add up - don't build it. There's plenty of "go-juice" and street cred in the existing Camaro line-up - you don't HAVE to have a Killer Camaro for the Camaro project to be considered a success. Last edited by Easy Go; 12-04-2009 at 12:17 PM. |
12-04-2009, 11:46 AM | #47 | |
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The one car I do take issue with is the Malibu. Its is a very good car, generally regarded as being better than the Camry or Accord. In de-badging experiments (removing all nameplates and badging from competing vehicles) average individuals have consistently placed it at the top. It has won awards for its build quality and interior ... looks are always subjective but do you honestly think this: is better than this?
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12-04-2009, 11:50 AM | #48 |
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Heh...It's off, it's on, it's off...it's on. Now it's off again (supposedly).
It couldn't have made it for a couple years anyways...they'll restart and cancel it a few more times before then.... fwiw, I don't believe this. Careful...the symbol on the steering wheel tends to brainwash people.... |
12-04-2009, 12:19 PM | #49 |
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12-04-2009, 12:31 PM | #50 |
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What's with this love of Z-28 which really.... come on.... all GM had to do instead of tacking on the SS to the 6.2 liter was to make it the Z-28 and y'all would have gobbled it up...... the SS happens to be the hot , power munger Camaro !! It just didn't get the Z insignia! In the next two weeks I am going to spend = about $7000 and drop the TVS 2300 supercharger into my SS , presto ! I could call it my own Z28 ahha !! with about 600 hp pouring out of the previously 427 hp LS3 ,,,,, Tell me? Anyone out there know what I will be seeing when I get the headers and exhaust to compliment the new SC ? 650 .... 675 hp ?? SHould be pumping 500 HP at the wheels ! Who needs a Z28 ! WooHoo !
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12-04-2009, 12:33 PM | #51 | |
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12-04-2009, 12:49 PM | #52 | |
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12-04-2009, 01:34 PM | #53 | |
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good luck on your plan. seriously. good luck sounds like a nice build. |
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12-04-2009, 01:37 PM | #54 |
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I tend to agree with this statement. and would I personally buy the SS if it was like the Z is now. probably not.
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12-04-2009, 02:15 PM | #55 |
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I was never one for the LSA powered heavy uber Z/28. IMO the Z/28 should stay N/A and get a special LS3 with more power think head/cam upgrade and focus on weight loss and suspension/brake upgrades. There are ways to cut weight and increase HP especially if Chevy was going to price the car near the GT500.
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