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*GTAHVIT* · 01-15-2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irpq11

Great vid. on the heel toe. I however will be buying an automatic tranny. I can drive anything, but after 10 years of driving a Tractor Trailor and owning a standard transmision vehicle, the thrill is GONE shiffting gears.

LOL

fair enough!

ZeeTwentyFour · 01-15-2009, 04:10 PM

i tried rev matching and downshifting today, not even heeltoe, and the thing with this silly geo is merely bliping the throttle doesn't do much.

1966goat · 01-15-2009, 06:06 PM

blipping the throttle will make sense once you learn how to drive. It's kinda a feel thing to know how many RPM you will force.

*Mindz* · 01-15-2009, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeTwentyFour

i tried rev matching and downshifting today, not even heeltoe, and the thing with this silly geo is merely bliping the throttle doesn't do much.

A blip for a metro is like revving halfway between your current and redline. =P It's all about the gearing though so every car is different.

Heel and Toe is used to do what you're doing while braking. That's the only time when all three pedals are needed.

Vash · 01-15-2009, 07:44 PM

Aye I used to hate on steep hills when someone get's up close to your bumper. I have an 84 RX7 5 speed (yes still have it) and it's probably one of the easier sticks to pull off a brake to 1st uphill.

Mr Twisty · 01-18-2009, 04:46 PM

Race cars used to have non-syncro trannies, so the drivers were pretty much forced to learn double clutching, and heel-toe techniques. Nowadays double clutching is just a novelty, even most truckers do it the lazy way and float gears...DON'T they PQ

Your pedals should be optimized for good heel-toe position, it makes it SO much easier. The throttle should be close to the brake (right to left) and when you're on the brakes, the brake pedal height should be the same as the gas pedal...A quick tap with the right side of your foot on the gas pedal and voila! rev and downshift!

jeffny09 · 01-18-2009, 04:56 PM

thanks guys great videos and advice

NUCAR · 01-18-2009, 05:31 PM

More heel and toe practice here....to be followed with a good banging of the shifter

theholycow · 01-18-2009, 05:45 PM

Might I recommend the forum specifically about manual transmissions?
http://www.standardshift.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Every time I read a thread about manuals, I come to the renewed conclusion that getting one will cause me to do more harm than good to my Camaro. Besides, I'm elated with the performance of the automatic tranny.

Why?

If you think you'll enjoy it more, go ahead and get it. You'll be fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by N8dawg

This is a very bad idea, I used to do the exact same thing..until I had to pay for another clutch, believe me, keeping your car from moving by keeping the clutch out just enough is extremely hard on your clutch/tranny.

I suppose if you're going to spend a whole red light it's a bad idea, but if you only do it for a split second during the launch it's no different from using the handbrake...either way it slips momentarily.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeTwentyFour

i tried rev matching and downshifting today, not even heeltoe, and the thing with this silly geo is merely bliping the throttle doesn't do much.

That makes it easier. You can stab it pretty hard and have better, more measured control. My VW's drive-by-wire throttle is jumpy and randomly sends it to redline no matter how consistent my blip foot is.

jeffny09 · 01-18-2009, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NUCAR

More heel and toe practice here....to be followed with a good banging of the shifter

ouchhhhhhhh

djsnoflake · 01-19-2009, 09:05 AM

As far as your upshifts go doesn't the Camaro have no lift shift? GM seems to be dumping it on all their performance cars lately.

jeffny09 · 01-19-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djsnoflake

As far as your upshifts go doesn't the Camaro have no lift shift? GM seems to be dumping it on all their performance cars lately.

no lift shift?

*GTAHVIT* · 01-19-2009, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffny09

no lift shift?

You don't have to lift off the gas pedal when you push in the clutch. Kind of a computerized speed shift.

N8dawg · 01-19-2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtahvit

You don't have to lift off the gas pedal when you push in the clutch. Kind of a computerized speed shift.

Pfft, you don't need that to do a powershift, im sure everyone with a camaro will be doing it whether or not it comes with the no lift shift feature.

01-15-2009, 04:10 PM	#30
ZeeTwentyFour Does not have a Camaro Drives: 99 silverado Z71/66 Chevelle SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 469 View My Garage	i tried rev matching and downshifting today, not even heeltoe, and the thing with this silly geo is merely bliping the throttle doesn't do much. __________________

01-18-2009, 04:56 PM	#35
jeffny09 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new york Posts: 5,618	thanks guys great videos and advice __________________ top 10 reason why real men drive stick. 10. A manual transmission is the ultimate in control 9. You can use automotive jargon and not sound like a total tool 8. You can't spell "manual" without "man" 7. Manual transmissions prove you can do more than one thing at a time 6. You can't drift in an auto 5. You can't pull fancy moves in an automatic 4. You get better fuel economy with a stick 3. You’ll never look like a chump if you can drive stick 2. Manual transmission cars are faster 1. Women like a guy who is good with his hands.

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01-15-2009, 06:06 PM	#31
1966goat Drives: 2001 Trans Am WS6, 1966 GTO Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 43	blipping the throttle will make sense once you learn how to drive. It's kinda a feel thing to know how many RPM you will force.

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Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	Race cars used to have non-syncro trannies, so the drivers were pretty much forced to learn double clutching, and heel-toe techniques. Nowadays double clutching is just a novelty, even most truckers do it the lazy way and float gears...DON'T they PQ Your pedals should be optimized for good heel-toe position, it makes it SO much easier. The throttle should be close to the brake (right to left) and when you're on the brakes, the brake pedal height should be the same as the gas pedal...A quick tap with the right side of your foot on the gas pedal and voila! rev and downshift!

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djsnoflake Faith Keeper Drives: 2012 Silverado LTZ, 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 2,764 View My Garage	As far as your upshifts go doesn't the Camaro have no lift shift? GM seems to be dumping it on all their performance cars lately.