One more reason to like ZL1 tranny in 1LE... - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

natmad · 09-22-2012, 03:52 PM

I want to buy a silver 1SS 1LE with dual mode exhaust when my son gets one year driving experience in April as insurance costs go will then go down significantly.

I looked through and searched the Camaro Issues/Problems forum for any reliability concerns I might have about buying a Camaro 1LE. The one thing that really got my attention was the 1st to 2nd shift grinding issue that some owners have had with their 6 speed transmissions. From the reading I've done on mustang forums, it appears the Tremec has far less shifting issues than the Chinese made Getrag 6 speed in the Gt and Boss 302.

Soooo, since the 1LE has the ZL1 transmission, I searched the ZL1 forum and through 20 plus pages I found no threads concerning shifting issues. This is comforting to me as perhaps Chevy instructed Tremec to make sure this problem would not rear its ugly head on a $55,000 Camaro. Different parts, materials or a slight change in design, maybe.

Is this just wishful thinking on my part... time for a Saturday afternoon beer... cheers to my fellow 1LE fans.

PYROLYSIS · 09-22-2012, 04:00 PM

The transmission in the 1LE is not the ZL1 transmission. ZL1 has the MG9, ,the 1LE has the MM6. I have heard that the MM6 is used in the ZO6.

natmad · 09-22-2012, 11:26 PM

Ok , wishful thinking and misinformation... time for another beer...

Bhobbs · 09-22-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by natmad

Ok , wishful thinking and misinformation... time for another beer...

They all use the Tr6060 but with different gear ratios.

VR Baron · 09-25-2012, 02:55 PM

My 2012 ss has the carbon blocker rings to eliminate the grinding. So far so good. Would think all 2012 and up has this fix

1LEE · 09-25-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

The transmission in the 1LE is not the ZL1 transmission. ZL1 has the MG9, ,the 1LE has the MM6. I have heard that the MM6 is used in the ZO6.

This.

2012REDSS · 10-04-2012, 10:06 AM

I have a 2012 and my grinds but only are hard high rpm shifts

2cnd chance · 10-04-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by natmad

Ok , wishful thinking and misinformation... time for another beer...

He said it has the Z06 transmission...pretty stout and tested I'd say.

LSxJunkie · 10-04-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012REDSS

I have a 2012 and my grinds but only are hard high rpm shifts

Sounds more like clutch not fully disengaging.

BLKSS1LE · 11-19-2012, 09:44 PM

I have a 1le and so far I am not impressed with the 1st to 2nd. It isnt grinding but rather not letting me into 2nd. And when it does it will not grind or make a peep! Now if I sit at a red light hold the break and put it into first and then 2nd it will do the same thing resist the shift. But once I put it into first or 2nd once, go to neutral and try it again, it will go back into the same gear just fine. Same thing with down shifting to 2nd or 3rd, it will not allow me to go into that gear... until i hit a certin RPM or gas it up with the clutch in to it falls into place.

dangjohnny · 11-19-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BLKSS1LE

I have a 1le and so far I am not impressed with the 1st to 2nd. It isnt grinding but rather not letting me into 2nd. And when it does it will not grind or make a peep! Now if I sit at a red light hold the break and put it into first and then 2nd it will do the same thing resist the shift. But once I put it into first or 2nd once, go to neutral and try it again, it will go back into the same gear just fine. Same thing with down shifting to 2nd or 3rd, it will not allow me to go into that gear... until i hit a certin RPM or gas it up with the clutch in to it falls into place.

Maybe you need a skip shift eliminator kit.

Bhobbs · 11-19-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BLKSS1LE

I have a 1le and so far I am not impressed with the 1st to 2nd. It isnt grinding but rather not letting me into 2nd. And when it does it will not grind or make a peep! Now if I sit at a red light hold the break and put it into first and then 2nd it will do the same thing resist the shift. But once I put it into first or 2nd once, go to neutral and try it again, it will go back into the same gear just fine. Same thing with down shifting to 2nd or 3rd, it will not allow me to go into that gear... until i hit a certin RPM or gas it up with the clutch in to it falls into place.

Sounds like the skip shift.

PYROLYSIS · 11-19-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BLKSS1LE

I have a 1le and so far I am not impressed with the 1st to 2nd. It isnt grinding but rather not letting me into 2nd. And when it does it will not grind or make a peep! Now if I sit at a red light hold the break and put it into first and then 2nd it will do the same thing resist the shift. But once I put it into first or 2nd once, go to neutral and try it again, it will go back into the same gear just fine. Same thing with down shifting to 2nd or 3rd, it will not allow me to go into that gear... until i hit a certin RPM or gas it up with the clutch in to it falls into place.

Do not try to force the car into 2nd gear if it doesnt want you to. It's trying to make you shift from 1st to fourth. Buy a $30 skip shift elliminator and you won't have this problem anymore. They are easy to install. There should be a light coming on in the dash if this is the problem you are experiencing. I believe it says skip shift or something.

Mgizzle · 11-19-2012, 10:32 PM

As said, skip shift feature that forces u into 4th gear due to emisions. Read the owners manual and it will tell u when it turns off, I think around 19mph or so. The skip shift eliminator connector is like $20.

09-22-2012, 03:52 PM	#1
natmad Drives: WTB '16 1SS Magride NPP Recaros 6m Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: raleigh, nc Posts: 83	One more reason to like ZL1 tranny in 1LE... I want to buy a silver 1SS 1LE with dual mode exhaust when my son gets one year driving experience in April as insurance costs go will then go down significantly. I looked through and searched the Camaro Issues/Problems forum for any reliability concerns I might have about buying a Camaro 1LE. The one thing that really got my attention was the 1st to 2nd shift grinding issue that some owners have had with their 6 speed transmissions. From the reading I've done on mustang forums, it appears the Tremec has far less shifting issues than the Chinese made Getrag 6 speed in the Gt and Boss 302. Soooo, since the 1LE has the ZL1 transmission, I searched the ZL1 forum and through 20 plus pages I found no threads concerning shifting issues. This is comforting to me as perhaps Chevy instructed Tremec to make sure this problem would not rear its ugly head on a $55,000 Camaro. Different parts, materials or a slight change in design, maybe. Is this just wishful thinking on my part... time for a Saturday afternoon beer... cheers to my fellow 1LE fans.

09-22-2012, 04:00 PM	#2
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	The transmission in the 1LE is not the ZL1 transmission. ZL1 has the MG9, ,the 1LE has the MM6. I have heard that the MM6 is used in the ZO6. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

11-19-2012, 10:32 PM	#14
Mgizzle Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE 1SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,252	As said, skip shift feature that forces u into 4th gear due to emisions. Read the owners manual and it will tell u when it turns off, I think around 19mph or so. The skip shift eliminator connector is like $20. __________________ I work for General Motors and am not an official spokes person for General Motors. My views and opinions are my own and not those of General Motors.

09-22-2012, 11:26 PM	#3
natmad Drives: WTB '16 1SS Magride NPP Recaros 6m Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: raleigh, nc Posts: 83	Ok , wishful thinking and misinformation... time for another beer...

09-25-2012, 02:55 PM	#5
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,287	My 2012 ss has the carbon blocker rings to eliminate the grinding. So far so good. Would think all 2012 and up has this fix

10-04-2012, 10:06 AM	#7
2012REDSS Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NC Posts: 657	I have a 2012 and my grinds but only are hard high rpm shifts

11-19-2012, 09:44 PM	#10
BLKSS1LE Drives: 2013 Chevy Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Cudahy, WI Posts: 86 View My Garage	I have a 1le and so far I am not impressed with the 1st to 2nd. It isnt grinding but rather not letting me into 2nd. And when it does it will not grind or make a peep! Now if I sit at a red light hold the break and put it into first and then 2nd it will do the same thing resist the shift. But once I put it into first or 2nd once, go to neutral and try it again, it will go back into the same gear just fine. Same thing with down shifting to 2nd or 3rd, it will not allow me to go into that gear... until i hit a certin RPM or gas it up with the clutch in to it falls into place.