What type of fuel to use?

[Matth3w]

My wife and I might be moving to either Belgium or Netherlands for 3 years. Obviously in the states you want to use 93 (if available) or 91 (if its not). But the types of fuel they have there seem to be 98 super unleaded, 95 regular unleaded, or 98 unleaded replacement.

I can't seem to find any info on Google and with the way gas prices are across Europe are Id probably like the least expensive...

So what do you think or where could I find what I am looking for?

[ckeane01]

98 super unleaded.. just because it has the word SUPER in it !!! no, i have no idea.. sorry

[Tee304]

Use whatever gas you feel like. Then if it breaks down, buy a new Camaro! J/K

93 octane for my RY 2SS - DEALER AND OWNER'S MANUAL RECOMMENDATION

[ron10]

with the price of gas over there,i might think about storing it and get a bicycle.

[Matth3w]

So no one knows basically lol.

Can I get warranty work done there or is my warranty basically void?

[Tee304]

Nothing less than 93 octane (91 octane is ok, but don't go lower) is the owner's manual recommendations for the US. Overseas, I'm not sure. You might have to call up a whore house in Belgium for those gasoline questions. Or for that matter, any other concerns relating to your car and "how to break it in".

[shad2009]

i wouldn't think using over 93 octane would be bad since the lowest recommended is 91...as stated above...and i've heard of people putting racing fuel in their cars...as for the warranty question, i'd call and ask about that

[Matth3w]

Like I said in the first post I'm well aware of what the minimum octane ratings are for the US. But as people can see neither is a choice. Just wondering what 95 unleaded replacement is and if their 98 standards are the same as ours etc

[MikelSS]

I don't know if it helps, but I found this at http://oldeloohuis.com/octane.html:

It turns out that in Europe, the octane number posted is determined by the RON method (if you live in Europe, check the small print on the gas pump next time you fill 'er up. Wait, filling it up requires taking out a loan nowadays...). In the USA, the number posted is according to the "(R+M)/2" method. Turns out that this is simply the average of the RON number and the MON number. So, would the MON number typically be lower than the RON number? The answer is....yes! Apparently, for modern fuels, the difference between RON and MON (also called sensitivity) is about 10 (RON is higher than MON). Knowing this, we can now calculate the following:
87 octane in the USA = 92 octane in Europe
89 octane in the USA= 94 octane in Europe
92 octane in the USA = 97 octane in Europe

Go figure, huh? It seems these regular and premium fuels have roughly the same octane rating after all.

[Matth3w]

So 95 would be damn near race gas?

I wonder what the difference is between 95 and 95 "replacement" is

[MikelSS]

From http://hondaswap.com/reference-mater...ratings-59435/ :

In Europe 98-octane gasoline is common and in Japan even 100-octane is readily available at the pumps, but this octane nomenclature is misleading to Americans as foreign octane ratings are derived entirely differently from our own... So, like every other measurement system it seems that everyone else uses a different scale than we do, but unlike most other instances where we have had the good sense to create different units of measure in this case we all use the same name...
Japan and Europe use a system called RON or Research Octane Number to determine the octane rating of their gasoline, while stateside we use a system called AKI or Anti-Knock Index to determine gasoline's octane rating... Interestingly, to further complicate things it would seem that our own AKI system is actually derived from the average of the RON system and another more complicated system referred to as MON or Motor Octane Number... So, to recap our methodologies for measuring gasoline's octane rating are different, but share some common elements...
So, with the commonality of RON in mind a good rule of thumb is as follows, multiply the foreign RON Octane rating by 0.95 and you will have the US AKI equivalent.

( RON Octane Rating x 0.95 = AKI Octane Rating )
98 RON Octane x 0.95 = 93.1 AKI Octane (US measure)
100 RON Octane x 0.95 = 95 AKI Octane (US measure)

So, as you can see the 93 or 94 octane fuel we are all paying an arm and a leg for is actually quite comparable to the higher octane fuels found in Europe and Japan. The people whom have to worry about low octane rating are our friends out west in places like California that are subjected to substandard 91 octane.
91 AKI Octane (US measure) = 95.5 RON Octane

So if you multiply 95 (US) times 1.053 it would be 100 (Europe)

[Matth3w]

Jesus h.I wonder what kind of tune I can get from vector with those numbers. No wonder gas is so expensive there...christ our race fuel is that expensive here.

[ljstella]

Originally Posted by Matth3w

Jesus h.I wonder what kind of tune I can get from vector with those numbers. No wonder gas is so expensive there...christ our race fuel is that expensive here.

Have you read what he posted? 97 Octane that is sold in Europe is equivalent to the 92 octane here. The Octane rating is deteremined differently. I really don't think you'll need a tune. You should be fine with the 98, that's equivalent to 93.

[Matth3w]

Oh I read it backwards...that the euro octane was equiv to higher us.