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olblue75 · 12-26-2013, 02:08 PM

Taking my 10SSM6 in Monday morning for a check out is there anything I should tell them or be prepared for. The car shifts kinda of rough when it's cold an gets a little better when it warms up, service advisor says there's no TSB or recall an that they haven't replaced many transmissions for the issue. Hopefully they will either replace it with a newer tranny or rebuild it with the new style synchros.

jvoisel · 12-26-2013, 02:11 PM

I'd say just change the fluid and drive it. I have RP in mine and it helped, many people run Redline fluid in theirs and say it helps.

Bo White · 12-26-2013, 02:25 PM

Yep, both my GXP and my SS are that way. Sometimes its a touch notchy warm and I'll stop by somewhere like the gas station and when I leave its silky smooth. Its weird sometimes lol. I just don't worry about it since my GXP was that way.

Bo White · 12-26-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jvoisel

I'd say just change the fluid and drive it. I have RP in mine and it helped, many people run Redline fluid in theirs and say it helps.

This^^^^
I put Mobil in my GXP and liked it.

nak3dsnake · 12-26-2013, 02:56 PM

Yup, change to a good synthetic gear oil and it will improve the cold shifts quite a bit.

Stingr69 · 12-26-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nak3dsnake

Yup, change to a good synthetic ATF and it will improve the cold shifts quite a bit.

There, I fixed it for you.

RiCorvette · 12-26-2013, 04:12 PM

An issue discussed ad nauseum...
lot's o' threads on this subject.

I had a similar condition in my '10 SS M6; I put RP in and it did not help.
I called Tremec and they said it was the nature of the beast / gearing.
It gets less notchy as it warms up.
When cold, I found pausing before shifting to be of some benefit. Tremec C/S recommended Mobile 1 Sythetic, but pointed out that the maker of the car has the final say as far as Warranty, so go with their recommendation. The Challenger uses the TR6060 also, but recommends a different fluid (ATF+4) than GM

Come time, I will go with Tremec's recommendation and use Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF.
JMO

Happy Boxing Day!

Synner · 12-26-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stingr69

There, I fixed it for you.

Might want to notice he has a V6 with a different trans and it takes gear oil before changing his quotes to completely wrong information.

nak3dsnake · 12-26-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

Might want to notice he has a V6 with a different trans and it takes gear oil before changing his quotes to completely wrong information.

Both V6 and V8 spec gear oil for the tranny. If someone chooses to run ATF instead then meh. You can always change to a lighter oil, but why when you can just dump ATF in it. Lolz. Also, not all ATF fluids can be used as a substitute for a gear oil. Redline is great in a MT because its a very versatile product. Please keep that in mind.

Synner · 12-26-2013, 05:19 PM

No the Tr-6060 does not specify gear oil.

Manual Transmission (V6 Engine) SAE 75W-90 GL5 Gear Oil (GM Part No. 88862475, in Canada 88862476).
Manual Transmission (V8 Engine) Manual Transmission Fluid (GM Part No. 88861800, in Canada 88861801).

The fluid is a dexron III ATF fluid.

Synner · 12-26-2013, 05:49 PM

And redline D4 isn't used in the TR-6060 due to "versatility", it's used because it complies with Dexron III ATF standards.

nak3dsnake · 12-26-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

No the Tr-6060 does not specify gear oil.

Manual Transmission (V6 Engine) SAE 75W-90 GL5 Gear Oil (GM Part No. 88862475, in Canada 88862476).
Manual Transmission (V8 Engine) Manual Transmission Fluid (GM Part No. 88861800, in Canada 88861801).

The fluid is a dexron III ATF fluid.

Lolz so its ATF packaged as a MTF fluid. Why not just call it what it is?

nak3dsnake · 12-26-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

And redline D4 isn't used in the TR-6060 due to "versatility", it's used because it complies with Dexron III ATF standards.

Its also complies with many more atf standards. Is that not the definition of versitial? Have many uses, serving many purposes.

Synner · 12-26-2013, 05:54 PM

They started calling it a MTF because Dexron III is no longer suitable for newer autos, they are now going with a Dexron VI. The new manuals are about as complicated as the autos of the past decade so they now use an older ATF standard but call it a MTF so people don't feel bad putting it in their M6.

Retarded and confusing but thats how GM rolls.

12-26-2013, 02:08 PM	#1
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	Notchy shifting Taking my 10SSM6 in Monday morning for a check out is there anything I should tell them or be prepared for. The car shifts kinda of rough when it's cold an gets a little better when it warms up, service advisor says there's no TSB or recall an that they haven't replaced many transmissions for the issue. Hopefully they will either replace it with a newer tranny or rebuild it with the new style synchros.

12-26-2013, 02:11 PM	#2
jvoisel Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: New Orleans, La Posts: 436	I'd say just change the fluid and drive it. I have RP in mine and it helped, many people run Redline fluid in theirs and say it helps. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS

12-26-2013, 02:25 PM	#3
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Yep, both my GXP and my SS are that way. Sometimes its a touch notchy warm and I'll stop by somewhere like the gas station and when I leave its silky smooth. Its weird sometimes lol. I just don't worry about it since my GXP was that way. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

12-26-2013, 02:56 PM	#5
nak3dsnake Drives: 2010 Camaro IBM 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,282 View My Garage	Yup, change to a good synthetic gear oil and it will improve the cold shifts quite a bit. __________________ Looks: AAC P13W DRLs, Heritage Grille, RS Embroidered Headrests, GM Door Sill Plates, GM Premium Floor Mats, Body Color Engine Cover, LLT Mobile 1 Oil Cap, ZL1 Sport Pedals, 3M Clear Bra. Performance: Vararam Ram Air Intake, Hurst Short Throw Shifter w/ Hurst Hard Drive Pistol Grip, IDEALG Clutch Master Cylinder, RX Catch can, GTO clutch fluid reservoir, Brembo Brakes, 1LE Track Pack, GMPP Exhaust Upgrade.

12-26-2013, 05:19 PM	#10
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	No the Tr-6060 does not specify gear oil. Manual Transmission (V6 Engine) SAE 75W-90 GL5 Gear Oil (GM Part No. 88862475, in Canada 88862476). Manual Transmission (V8 Engine) Manual Transmission Fluid (GM Part No. 88861800, in Canada 88861801). The fluid is a dexron III ATF fluid. Last edited by Synner; 12-26-2013 at 05:34 PM.

12-26-2013, 04:12 PM	#7
RiCorvette Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport 3LT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Center of the known Universe Posts: 863	An issue discussed ad nauseum... lot's o' threads on this subject. I had a similar condition in my '10 SS M6; I put RP in and it did not help. I called Tremec and they said it was the nature of the beast / gearing. It gets less notchy as it warms up. When cold, I found pausing before shifting to be of some benefit. Tremec C/S recommended Mobile 1 Sythetic, but pointed out that the maker of the car has the final say as far as Warranty, so go with their recommendation. The Challenger uses the TR6060 also, but recommends a different fluid (ATF+4) than GM Come time, I will go with Tremec's recommendation and use Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF. JMO Happy Boxing Day!

12-26-2013, 05:49 PM	#11
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	And redline D4 isn't used in the TR-6060 due to "versatility", it's used because it complies with Dexron III ATF standards.

12-26-2013, 05:54 PM	#14
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	They started calling it a MTF because Dexron III is no longer suitable for newer autos, they are now going with a Dexron VI. The new manuals are about as complicated as the autos of the past decade so they now use an older ATF standard but call it a MTF so people don't feel bad putting it in their M6. Retarded and confusing but thats how GM rolls.