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djxrated81 · 06-20-2012, 09:50 PM

i got my dyno tuned after header install and put down 390whp on the mustang dyno, what do you think i would lay down on other dynos? i heard the mustang dyno is the most accurate?

any clue on this?

Parag · 06-20-2012, 10:04 PM

I just heard they are about 5 percent low. Which isnt much. Just error is probably 2 percent

djxrated81 · 06-20-2012, 10:07 PM

o is it safe to say to peeps that i put down 400? its a nice safe number to round up too

vrunner · 06-20-2012, 10:08 PM

Your spot on!! Matt did mine, see my signature and I was at 389. I had a G8 GXP that Matt did, similar mods, stock headers, auto and it got 374. I ran the same setup on a dynojet and it came up 412... From what I have read and heard there is about an 10 to 15% difference between the two with the Dynojet always giving the higher number. Much debate out there though!! All I care about its the results when I bury my right foot!!

Supermaro585HP · 06-20-2012, 10:10 PM

This will be interesting because I had mine on a Mustang dyno and they told me it was 453 HP and they said to add 15% to that for a dynojet. Whats everyone think of this???

vrunner · 06-20-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermaro585HP

This will be interesting because I had mine on a Mustang dyno and they told me it was 453 HP and they said to add 15% to that for a dynojet. Whats everyone think of this???

Sounds about right... Tough to pinpoint though cause unless you can do the pulls at almost the same time with the same tuner it can vary somewhat. But from all the cars I have seen run both over the years its pretty consistant at 10-15% higher for the Dynojet.

djxrated81 · 06-20-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vrunner

Your spot on!! Matt did mine, see my signature and I was at 389. I had a G8 GXP that Matt did, similar mods, stock headers, auto and it got 374. I ran the same setup on a dynojet and it came up 412... From what I have read and heard there is about an 10 to 15% difference between the two with the Dynojet always giving the higher number. Much debate out there though!! All I care about its the results when I bury my right foot!!

Good deal my man, did u go to his new shop yet??

dkg11 · 06-21-2012, 07:55 AM

My Father owns Mustang dynamometer and i am currently a salesmen for the company... now here is the difference in the numbers. Here at Mustang we have perfected the real load simulation...so the car acts exactly how it is going to act on the dyno as it would on the road...while dynojet has not perfected that so the number teand to be a little higher and do not simulate real road driving...now which dyno would you want to tune on the dyno that gives you false acquisition of the road or one that is identical conditions? If anyone still has any questions feel free to private message me and i can go into more detail.

v6sonoma · 06-21-2012, 08:02 AM

A dyno should be used for comparison between mods to see what the change is and you should use the same dyno as even the same model can be a little different from unit to unit. 10 different dynos will give you 10 different results. That does seem a little low for an LS3 with those mods but not by much. You might need to fine tune the tune.

dkg11 · 06-21-2012, 08:11 AM

ok once again i will say this... Mustang Dyno's are the ONLY dynos that have perfected real vehicle loading... this means your car is driving exactly on the dyno as it does on the road... so Mustang Dyno numbers are the exact HP you are getting to the wheels that are getting to the road...while other dynos do not do that so the number reads higher becuase it is not properly loading the vehicle if loading at all... i have a 2010 camaro SS with 424RWHP on a mustang dyno with your average bolt on list tuned by Bob Morreale, owner of www.Thetuningschool.com and i do about a 12.4

dkg11 · 06-21-2012, 08:39 AM

Bump... just wanna see what you guys think about this subject

djxrated81 · 06-21-2012, 08:46 AM

Matt said,owner of the shop and my install, the reason why it might be a lil low is because i've been babying it which was true at the time, i had the dyno tune back in september, so since then i've been getting on it a lil more so maybe my next tune it will put down more?

matt55 · 06-21-2012, 08:49 AM

Dynojets more consistent over Mustang dyno. Not because Mustang dyno are bad but they have more varables the can be changed .
Everthing ive seen and read Mustang are tougher on #s with factory setting.

dkg11 · 06-21-2012, 08:50 AM

See the thing is your number is not low (unless the dyno was calibrated that way) your just getting a REAL number, rather than a HP reading of a car on rollers... Many car fanatics idea of HP is everything has to be higher...while yes it is nice to have high HP why would you want a false reading rather than a real reading?

06-20-2012, 09:50 PM	#1
djxrated81 Drives: 2011 camaro SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 404	mustang dyno.... i got my dyno tuned after header install and put down 390whp on the mustang dyno, what do you think i would lay down on other dynos? i heard the mustang dyno is the most accurate? any clue on this? __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Airaid cai, ARH HF cats X pipe, SLP LM1, 160stat,RX Catch can, Tuned @ Tune Time Performance, side marker black outs, decepticon bowtie emblems, stealth turn sig. bulbs,Hyper White DTRL Painted GFX, Havoc Spoiler [IMG]

06-20-2012, 10:04 PM	#2
Parag Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 1,334	I just heard they are about 5 percent low. Which isnt much. Just error is probably 2 percent __________________ stage III cam, 4.10's, custom CAI, suede headliner 461 RWHP, 422 RWTQ

06-20-2012, 10:07 PM	#3
djxrated81 Drives: 2011 camaro SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 404	o is it safe to say to peeps that i put down 400? its a nice safe number to round up too __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Airaid cai, ARH HF cats X pipe, SLP LM1, 160stat,RX Catch can, Tuned @ Tune Time Performance, side marker black outs, decepticon bowtie emblems, stealth turn sig. bulbs,Hyper White DTRL Painted GFX, Havoc Spoiler [IMG]

06-20-2012, 10:08 PM	#4
vrunner Drives: 2012 T3 Edition 2SS Hurst 6M Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 161	Your spot on!! Matt did mine, see my signature and I was at 389. I had a G8 GXP that Matt did, similar mods, stock headers, auto and it got 374. I ran the same setup on a dynojet and it came up 412... From what I have read and heard there is about an 10 to 15% difference between the two with the Dynojet always giving the higher number. Much debate out there though!! All I care about its the results when I bury my right foot!! __________________ 2012 T3 edition 2SS M6 Hurst, SLP wheels, SLP headers, CAI's intake, Borla X pipe and exhaust 2008 CTS 3.6 DI AWD DD

06-21-2012, 08:02 AM	#9
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	A dyno should be used for comparison between mods to see what the change is and you should use the same dyno as even the same model can be a little different from unit to unit. 10 different dynos will give you 10 different results. That does seem a little low for an LS3 with those mods but not by much. You might need to fine tune the tune. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

06-20-2012, 10:10 PM	#5
Supermaro585HP Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro SS RS Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,186 View My Garage	This will be interesting because I had mine on a Mustang dyno and they told me it was 453 HP and they said to add 15% to that for a dynojet. Whats everyone think of this???

06-21-2012, 07:55 AM	#8
dkg11 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 387 View My Garage	My Father owns Mustang dynamometer and i am currently a salesmen for the company... now here is the difference in the numbers. Here at Mustang we have perfected the real load simulation...so the car acts exactly how it is going to act on the dyno as it would on the road...while dynojet has not perfected that so the number teand to be a little higher and do not simulate real road driving...now which dyno would you want to tune on the dyno that gives you false acquisition of the road or one that is identical conditions? If anyone still has any questions feel free to private message me and i can go into more detail.

06-21-2012, 08:11 AM	#10
dkg11 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 387 View My Garage	ok once again i will say this... Mustang Dyno's are the ONLY dynos that have perfected real vehicle loading... this means your car is driving exactly on the dyno as it does on the road... so Mustang Dyno numbers are the exact HP you are getting to the wheels that are getting to the road...while other dynos do not do that so the number reads higher becuase it is not properly loading the vehicle if loading at all... i have a 2010 camaro SS with 424RWHP on a mustang dyno with your average bolt on list tuned by Bob Morreale, owner of www.Thetuningschool.com and i do about a 12.4

06-21-2012, 08:39 AM	#11
dkg11 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 387 View My Garage	Bump... just wanna see what you guys think about this subject __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/LS3 Magna Flow Street series Exhaust Airaid Intake+throttle body Custom tune by Bob Morreale www.thetuningschool.com QTP Electronic Exhaust cut-outs 12'' Alpine type R with 1500watts double ported box Tinted windows 392RWHP on Mustang Dyno #13933

06-21-2012, 08:46 AM	#12
djxrated81 Drives: 2011 camaro SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 404	Matt said,owner of the shop and my install, the reason why it might be a lil low is because i've been babying it which was true at the time, i had the dyno tune back in september, so since then i've been getting on it a lil more so maybe my next tune it will put down more? __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Airaid cai, ARH HF cats X pipe, SLP LM1, 160stat,RX Catch can, Tuned @ Tune Time Performance, side marker black outs, decepticon bowtie emblems, stealth turn sig. bulbs,Hyper White DTRL Painted GFX, Havoc Spoiler [IMG]

06-21-2012, 08:49 AM	#13
matt55 Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 1,069	Dynojets more consistent over Mustang dyno. Not because Mustang dyno are bad but they have more varables the can be changed . Everthing ive seen and read Mustang are tougher on #s with factory setting. __________________ 10.8@130.8 610 whp, CAI, 2.5, E85, id850 on street tires.

06-21-2012, 08:50 AM	#14
dkg11 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 387 View My Garage	See the thing is your number is not low (unless the dyno was calibrated that way) your just getting a REAL number, rather than a HP reading of a car on rollers... Many car fanatics idea of HP is everything has to be higher...while yes it is nice to have high HP why would you want a false reading rather than a real reading? __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/LS3 Magna Flow Street series Exhaust Airaid Intake+throttle body Custom tune by Bob Morreale www.thetuningschool.com QTP Electronic Exhaust cut-outs 12'' Alpine type R with 1500watts double ported box Tinted windows 392RWHP on Mustang Dyno #13933