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CamaroSSforme · 06-19-2009, 08:34 AM

I wrote it ages ago but will repeat it now along with some new information.

The only manufacturer that currently makes a snow tires for the SS is Pirelli. Their Scorpion snow and ice. Tire Rack took my order for them and told me it would be August before they started to be delivered. 4 tires shipped to me $1048.77

Also any ideas of what to put on the SS (rears) once I wear out those P-Zeros in about 4,000 miles (from what I keep being told the rears are only good for 5000 miles and I REFUSE to pay $420 a tire for a tire that lasts only 5000 miles)?

ckaram · 06-20-2009, 07:15 AM

I can't answer your question, but thanks for the tip on the snow tires. I needed to find a set for my 2LT for the winter.

I was hoping to also find a cheap steel wheel (18 or 19) and buy these to fit, but no luck yet.

Still confused on the whole "SS hub and if the 18" steelies will fit the LT" issue.

Thanks again.

beowulf80 · 06-20-2009, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Still confused on the whole "SS hub and if the 18" steelies will fit the LT" issue.

SS "Hub"
The SS's are fitting Brembos that have a larger diameter, so the 18" wheels can't get over the brakes. 19" wheels might, but to my knowledge no one has tried.

18" steelies will fit the LT
I can't see this as a huge issue, seeing as how the V-6 versions all use the same brakes, and 18" steelies come as stock on the LS model. Maybe its brand dependent, but I'd be surprised.
IMO 18" would be the best for a snow tire, you want to get some sidewall on there!

ckaram · 06-20-2009, 10:52 AM

Thanks bewolulf80! Ok so how 'bout this--I ordered an LT with the RS package with the 20" wheels. I read in one of the threads that the LT then gets the SS "hub" when the RS is optioned.

So now will the 18" steelies fit? Everything I've read hasn't been definitive enough for me on this question. The Brembos are not a factor since it's an LT, but will the hub accept the steelie? That's the question.

(CamaroSSforme, sorry for hijacking your thread)

beowulf80 · 06-20-2009, 01:30 PM

I would suspect that the person you were talking to simply swiched the word hub with wheel. Not to be confused with tires! The Camaro team chose to have identical rolling diameters on all the tires, so by changing the wheel diameter all you're really doing is changing the amount of sidewall you get. That means no worries about if your speedo is giving you the correct reading. I can say that all the wheel options use a 5 bolt pattern. I have not seen the official list of the bolt circle or the offsets between each wheel, but seeing as all the wheels are specifically designed for the Camaro, its a very good bet that those are all identical. The 21" wheels are also a bolt on option as well, but you'll sacrifice ride & performance for style by moving up to those beasts. Not to mention $4,700+.

If you havn't seen the LS steel wheels, check them out below. They've got a pretty cool retro look to them IMO. I think they would make excellent snow tires for a V-6 car. I was initially hoping to use them on my soon upcoming SS, then doing some research found out they would not fit over the brakes. Rather than getting snow tires I may well keep my fiance's 1998 Caviler for those snowy, salty days. Somehow, that's the cheaper option than 20" Pirelli snow tires!

To the OP, if you're only getting 4-5K miles out of those rear tires, somebody's doing some serious burnouts / drifts! Gotta ask yourself how much that burnout is worth. My plan is to get about 12-15K out of them (or more if possible) and then have the worlds smokiest burnout ever on my way to the tire shop.

paulv7260 · 06-23-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroSSforme

I wrote it ages ago but will repeat it now along with some new information.

The only manufacturer that currently makes a snow tires for the SS is Pirelli. Their Scorpion snow and ice. Tire Rack took my order for them and told me it would be August before they started to be delivered. 4 tires shipped to me $1048.77

Also any ideas of what to put on the SS (rears) once I wear out those P-Zeros in about 4,000 miles (from what I keep being told the rears are only good for 5000 miles and I REFUSE to pay $420 a tire for a tire that lasts only 5000 miles)?

Question: those are designed for SUV's. Any potential issues with that other than the obvious "no racing for me".

Pirelli Scrorpions

Paul

KJS · 06-24-2009, 08:54 PM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29148

ckaram · 06-24-2009, 09:18 PM

Great info, KJS! Have you test-mounted the wheels to make sure they fit? Just checking. I was going to order the steelies but this has got me second-guessing. Thanks for the tip.

navyflyer72 · 06-25-2009, 06:22 AM

This is good info. My 2SS is going to be my daily driver and I drive over 65 miles a day (32 each way to work) and you know I'm going to be taking her out a lot... so figuring out how many miles I am bound to get on these tires before I have to fork over a grand for new one (plus mount and balance...) wow, I sure hope it is 15k at least, that would mean a grand a year on tires! Yikes! I am past the burnout stage (except when I am going in to have new tires put on of course), so that's not too much of a factor.

I see burnouts (unless you are lining up for a 1320) as poor throttle control (haha) I'm all about traction and launching!

It's kinda like Gov. Ventura's idea of gun control "2 shots through the same hole at 25 meters"

Throttle control "catching just enough traction to stomp the throttle to the floor while you glance at the rear view mirror to see the other guy smoking his tires..."

KJS · 06-25-2009, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckaram

Great info, KJS! Have you test-mounted the wheels to make sure they fit? Just checking. I was going to order the steelies but this has got me second-guessing. Thanks for the tip.

Will do the fitting this weekend (6/27-28). Will report back to you folks with pix.

BTW great model and color choice!

NOTE: PLEASE KEEP IN MIND I DO NOT HAVE THE V8 WITH BREMBOS.MY COMMENTS ONLY APPLY TO THE 6 CYL!

ckaram · 07-05-2009, 07:47 AM

Thanks KJS, you too! Let me know how they fit!

2010SLVRBULIT · 07-05-2009, 09:04 AM

I've gotten 2nd set of rims(18") for my LT/RS. Tires are going to be way cheaper and the ride a little better..

edog · 07-05-2009, 09:21 AM

I tried to research the pirelli brands. Each of the tires showed a minimum of 40k for the tires. This is for the ZR rated summer tires. I am hoping I get much better than 15k.

35k at least.

OUR72GTO · 07-05-2009, 02:27 PM

There has for over 8 months been a question re the SS "HUB" on the LT with RS.

It has nothing to do with diameter.

See some posts member Hylton wrote on this last winter. There are link and offset differences.

06-19-2009, 08:34 AM	#1
CamaroSSforme Got my two Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - RJT/Black Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 431	Ordered Snow Tires + a question I wrote it ages ago but will repeat it now along with some new information. The only manufacturer that currently makes a snow tires for the SS is Pirelli. Their Scorpion snow and ice. Tire Rack took my order for them and told me it would be August before they started to be delivered. 4 tires shipped to me $1048.77 Also any ideas of what to put on the SS (rears) once I wear out those P-Zeros in about 4,000 miles (from what I keep being told the rears are only good for 5000 miles and I REFUSE to pay $420 a tire for a tire that lasts only 5000 miles)? __________________ Visions in Color www.triscelephotography.com www.flickr.com/photos/ajabrams

06-20-2009, 07:15 AM	#2
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	I can't answer your question, but thanks for the tip on the snow tires. I needed to find a set for my 2LT for the winter. I was hoping to also find a cheap steel wheel (18 or 19) and buy these to fit, but no luck yet. Still confused on the whole "SS hub and if the 18" steelies will fit the LT" issue. Thanks again. __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

06-20-2009, 10:52 AM	#4
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	Thanks bewolulf80! Ok so how 'bout this--I ordered an LT with the RS package with the 20" wheels. I read in one of the threads that the LT then gets the SS "hub" when the RS is optioned. So now will the 18" steelies fit? Everything I've read hasn't been definitive enough for me on this question. The Brembos are not a factor since it's an LT, but will the hub accept the steelie? That's the question. (CamaroSSforme, sorry for hijacking your thread) __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56 Last edited by ckaram; 06-20-2009 at 10:54 AM. Reason: camaroSSforme

06-24-2009, 08:54 PM	#7
KJS Drives: '10 RJT,'95&'14 Vette Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cut Throat, NY Posts: 1,723 View My Garage	See post # 5 on the thread below.... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29148 __________________ *"As ye sow, so shall ye reap" - Me* Mine at sunset

06-24-2009, 09:18 PM	#8
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	Great info, KJS! Have you test-mounted the wheels to make sure they fit? Just checking. I was going to order the steelies but this has got me second-guessing. Thanks for the tip. __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

06-20-2009, 01:30 PM	#5
beowulf80 Drives: 2010 2SS / RS MT, IBM Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Yorkville IL Posts: 181 View My Garage	I would suspect that the person you were talking to simply swiched the word hub with wheel. Not to be confused with tires! The Camaro team chose to have identical rolling diameters on all the tires, so by changing the wheel diameter all you're really doing is changing the amount of sidewall you get. That means no worries about if your speedo is giving you the correct reading. I can say that all the wheel options use a 5 bolt pattern. I have not seen the official list of the bolt circle or the offsets between each wheel, but seeing as all the wheels are specifically designed for the Camaro, its a very good bet that those are all identical. The 21" wheels are also a bolt on option as well, but you'll sacrifice ride & performance for style by moving up to those beasts. Not to mention $4,700+. If you havn't seen the LS steel wheels, check them out below. They've got a pretty cool retro look to them IMO. I think they would make excellent snow tires for a V-6 car. I was initially hoping to use them on my soon upcoming SS, then doing some research found out they would not fit over the brakes. Rather than getting snow tires I may well keep my fiance's 1998 Caviler for those snowy, salty days. Somehow, that's the cheaper option than 20" Pirelli snow tires! To the OP, if you're only getting 4-5K miles out of those rear tires, somebody's doing some serious burnouts / drifts! Gotta ask yourself how much that burnout is worth. My plan is to get about 12-15K out of them (or more if possible) and then have the worlds smokiest burnout ever on my way to the tire shop.

06-25-2009, 06:22 AM	#9
navyflyer72 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS 6spd, BLK/CYB GRY Join Date: May 2009 Location: MD Posts: 456 View My Garage	This is good info. My 2SS is going to be my daily driver and I drive over 65 miles a day (32 each way to work) and you know I'm going to be taking her out a lot... so figuring out how many miles I am bound to get on these tires before I have to fork over a grand for new one (plus mount and balance...) wow, I sure hope it is 15k at least, that would mean a grand a year on tires! Yikes! I am past the burnout stage (except when I am going in to have new tires put on of course), so that's not too much of a factor. I see burnouts (unless you are lining up for a 1320) as poor throttle control (haha) I'm all about traction and launching! It's kinda like Gov. Ventura's idea of gun control "2 shots through the same hole at 25 meters" Throttle control "catching just enough traction to stomp the throttle to the floor while you glance at the rear view mirror to see the other guy smoking his tires..." __________________ The Zac Hartwell & Ryan Dunn Tribute Camaro Project and Tour Benefiting the Wounded Warrior Project & Garth Brooks Teammates for Kids

07-05-2009, 07:47 AM	#11
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	Thanks KJS, you too! Let me know how they fit! __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

07-05-2009, 09:04 AM	#12
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,527 View My Garage	I've gotten 2nd set of rims(18") for my LT/RS. Tires are going to be way cheaper and the ride a little better..

07-05-2009, 09:21 AM	#13
edog Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: F'BURG VA Posts: 3,828 View My Garage	I tried to research the pirelli brands. Each of the tires showed a minimum of 40k for the tires. This is for the ZR rated summer tires. I am hoping I get much better than 15k. 35k at least. __________________ Update...Build in process, Forged Rods, Pistons and rings, Johnson Lifters, NOVI1500 ECS SC, 13lb boost or more, LS3 Conversion 114/228/241 COMP CAM, Frostbite 4 row Aluminum radiator, 6L80 built, Circle D 6L80 PRO SERIES MULTI 258MM 2D, Stock 3.45 gears, 1-7/8 American Racing Headers w/HF cat, X-Pipe, Lingenfelter dual fuel pump, E-85 flex sensor, ATI super damper pulley, Ported TB, 160 therm, Trans cooler, Pedder's sways/end links/sub frame bushings, BMR trailing arms & toe rods, Coil overs. HP/TQ pending

07-05-2009, 02:27 PM	#14
OUR72GTO 2010 SIM Beige RS 6M Drives: SIM RS 6M 66 Corvair Silverado LTZ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kamloops,British Columbia Posts: 4,677	There has for over 8 months been a question re the SS "HUB" on the LT with RS. It has nothing to do with diameter. See some posts member Hylton wrote on this last winter. There are link and offset differences. __________________ CAMARO.. 2010 The Heart Beat is back in CHEVROLET Now let's put it back in America

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