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matt55 · 10-13-2011, 09:57 AM

http://forums.evolutionm.net/drag-ra...ts-2011-a.html
Iam talking about 1/4 mile, how many EVO x are running 11's with stock turbo? Maybe a hand full?
I've been knee deep into EVO before they came over in 2003, had a 03 and a 06 can't bring myself to get a X and have to spend/do more $ on mods (prety much a new turbo with bolt ons) just to run with my old evos.

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Originally Posted by Dcasandman

Not being argumentative, but the Evo X initially was slower due to the fact the 4g63 engine had been out for over a decade. The 4b11 was brand new. Evo IX still do well on the drag strip, but AMS and Ryan Gates won every time attack event in their classes in an Evo X. The Evo X also lapped the Top Gear Test track faster than the Evo IX. I have personally been at many event and dyno days. Mod for mod now the Evo Xs are putting down more power. Full bolt on IX same day same tuners averaged 310-315whp on cobs mustang dyno. EvO Xs with just a tune put that much down. Mine with bolting and tune put down 341. Evo IX on drag strip may still be the stuff due to Iron Block, but they haven't beat the X on a official road coarses with real drivers in a while.

BlackCamaroSS11 · 10-13-2011, 09:36 PM

I raced a 2005 evo 8 rs salvaged title with 75,000 miles on it, with full exhuast and a blow off valve and intake against my ss l99 with borla atak exhuast and k&n intake and he beat me by a car length in a little bit more than a quarter mile. Camaros cant keep up with evos from a dig. that was only an 8 with minor mods, i wouldnt want to see what a modded 9 would do to my car.

Dcasandman · 10-13-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by matt55

http://forums.evolutionm.net/drag-ra...ts-2011-a.html
Iam talking about 1/4 mile, how many EVO x are running 11's with stock turbo? Maybe a hand full?
I've been knee deep into EVO before they came over in 2003, had a 03 and a 06 can't bring myself to get a X and have to spend/do more $ on mods (prety much a new turbo with bolt ons) just to run with my old evos.

Ahh, Drag is different story. I would never buy an Evo to go straight. I would buy a Camaro. I bought the X for same reason I would have bought a IX for how fun the back roads and track are. I never even ran my fairly moded X down a drag strip. Now I would take a ZL1 down one though.

matt55 · 10-14-2011, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcasandman

Ahh, Drag is different story. I would never buy an Evo to go straight. I would buy a Camaro. I bought the X for same reason I would have bought a IX for how fun the back roads and track are. I never even ran my fairly moded X down a drag strip. Now I would take a ZL1 down one though.

There fun on the strip to;-)

Dangerzone · 10-16-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesman

Its the same damn thing. They just upgraded the seats, gauges, and changed the steering wheel. The Evo is the same damn basic car, just 3 times the price. Not to mention the crappy SunPro gauges below the HVAC look like they came from a 1980's kit car

That is the interior from a 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR.
The US didn't get the Evo X until 2008.

This is the 2008 Evo X's interior.

Dcasandman · 10-16-2011, 02:15 PM

The X with Nav inside looks much better also. Still cheap as hell, but better.

Agent orange · 10-18-2011, 08:02 AM

Not even close brother. I have ss and my friend got an evo x at first he pulled like 1 car ahead and around 80mph we're pretty much even i just started to pull around 90 to 100mph(4th gear)
So it means dont mess with those evo. So for v6 camaro i would say you're just gonna see a pair of taillights of evos.

BowtieBelle · 10-18-2011, 09:05 AM

Oh, Evo all day for sure.

Dcasandman · 10-18-2011, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent orange

Not even close brother. I have ss and my friend got an evo x at first he pulled like 1 car ahead and around 80mph we're pretty much even i just started to pull around 90 to 100mph(4th gear)
So it means dont mess with those evo. So for v6 camaro i would say you're just gonna see a pair of taillights of evos.

Ya, 80 plus SS all the way. I would say SS all the way from about any roll greater than 40. Even pretty modded the 4 cylinder and gearing in the 10 really start running out of steam at triple digits.

Wesman · 10-18-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent orange

Not even close brother. I have ss and my friend got an evo x at first he pulled like 1 car ahead and around 80mph we're pretty much even i just started to pull around 90 to 100mph(4th gear)
So it means dont mess with those evo. So for v6 camaro i would say you're just gonna see a pair of taillights of evos.

Obviously your friend's Evo X is modded.

A stock Camaro SS will annihilate a stock Evo from any speed.

Unless he lauched like crazy and put 4+ cars on your off the line, there is no way he should have even been close to you. Those cars are not that fast.

Dcasandman · 10-18-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesman

Obviously your friend's Evo X is modded.

A stock Camaro SS will annihilate a stock Evo from any speed.

Unless he lauched like crazy and put 4+ cars on your off the line, there is no way he should have even been close to you. Those cars are not that fast.

Annihilate is rather strong being that 1/4 times and 0-60 times stock are fairly comparable. No the Evo is not that fast, but in delay in taking off and ground is hard to take back. The SS stock is not a super beast as far a acceleration goes. Is it faster than an Evo yes, but I don't think it is as big as you think. To 100 one slightl poor shift and the Evo goes by you.

Z/28orSs · 10-18-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesman

The only thing Evos can do against V8's is get them off the line because its AWD, stock for stock they get destroyed after the 1/4 mile or from any rolling speed.

this!

Wesman · 10-18-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcasandman

Annihilate is rather strong being that 1/4 times and 0-60 times stock are fairly comparable. No the Evo is not that fast, but in delay in taking off and ground is hard to take back. The SS stock is not a super beast as far a acceleration goes. Is it faster than an Evo yes, but I don't think it is as big as you think. To 100 one slightl poor shift and the Evo goes by you.

We're talking about a difference of almost 10MPH in 1/4 mile trap speed.

In a race to 100MPH, the Evo would be annihilated.

Agent orange · 10-18-2011, 07:08 PM

Evos were design for track course thats why their low on top speed. They have short gear ratio. Being AWD and having 21psi turbo made them perform.

10-18-2011, 08:02 AM	#63
Agent orange socal ht5 Drives: 2010 Camaro ss Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Valley village CA Posts: 469	Not even close brother. I have ss and my friend got an evo x at first he pulled like 1 car ahead and around 80mph we're pretty much even i just started to pull around 90 to 100mph(4th gear) So it means dont mess with those evo. So for v6 camaro i would say you're just gonna see a pair of taillights of evos. __________________

10-18-2011, 09:05 AM	#64
BowtieBelle They see me trollin'... Drives: 217 ci of fury; Chauffeured by SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 13,876 View My Garage	Oh, Evo all day for sure. __________________ "Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff." -CamaroSpike 2011 Custom LT/RS: Bella's Build Thread

10-18-2011, 07:08 PM	#70
Agent orange socal ht5 Drives: 2010 Camaro ss Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Valley village CA Posts: 469	Evos were design for track course thats why their low on top speed. They have short gear ratio. Being AWD and having 21psi turbo made them perform. __________________

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