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jag107 · 03-28-2010, 01:09 PM

I would have a shop do the install for me. The question is, do I need to buy the full installation kit along with the gears, or would a shop be able to do it without the kit?
Thanks

2010 SSRS · 03-28-2010, 01:21 PM

I would buy the full installation kit.

ZZcamaro · 03-28-2010, 01:24 PM

You will need an install kit...
Whether your shop feels they need the full kit or the half kit is up to them.

jag107 · 03-28-2010, 01:30 PM

Thanks guys! Any idea what a shop would charge for labor on this job?

ZZcamaro · 03-28-2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jag107

Thanks guys! Any idea what a shop would charge for labor on this job?

If you are just dropping off the car and having them do it, you would be looking around $500, but dont forget you also need to have it tuned to get the correct readings on the speedo etc... and to take full advantage of the gear change.

jag107 · 03-28-2010, 01:39 PM

So on an M6, I'd need a tune after this mod, or would I be ok with just the Hypertech calibrator ?
I guess 4.10's would probably void my powertrain warranty anyway, right?

mark_p · 03-30-2010, 08:59 PM

My shop did mine for 550. No install kit needed. They had to use a couple .010. Shims that were lying around the shop and a new crush sleve from gm. Runs perfect with no noise at any rpm on accel or decell. That's 509 for the gears and 550 =1059. Best 1000 bucks I've spent so far. What a difference

jag107 · 03-30-2010, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark_p

My shop did mine for 550. No install kit needed. They had to use a couple .010. Shims that were lying around the shop and a new crush sleve from gm. Runs perfect with no noise at any rpm on accel or decell. That's 509 for the gears and 550 =1059. Best 1000 bucks I've spent so far. What a difference

Great info, thanks! How did you correct your speedo/tach?

X-treme Horsepower · 03-31-2010, 12:11 AM

get the install kit
we charge 500 for install

mark_p · 03-31-2010, 07:42 AM

you dont need the whole install kit. It is a wasted 259.00 bucks.. You should not need any of the bearings. Just a few shims and a crush sleeve at most. My contact pattern and back lash were almost perfect with no shims at all. WE tweaked it a little with a couple .01 shims on the carrier to get everything perfect.

mark_p · 03-31-2010, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jag107

Great info, thanks! How did you correct your speedo/tach?

My car is highly tuned via HP tuners already so we just went in and changed it in the program. I do still need to test it with my gps though. Most of your handheld tuners will also do it.

jag107 · 03-31-2010, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypertech

We dont support the 4.10 gear ratio. You wont be able to calibrate your speedometer or odometer.

http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...edo-732006.htm

So this is falsely advertised?

jag107 · 03-31-2010, 06:26 PM

Thanks, mark_p. How are you enjoying the change?

mark_p · 04-01-2010, 10:42 AM

all i can say is let the good times roll......

I have managed to take two mustang guys for a ride that were not ready for raw pin you to your seat power this car has now... Hit second gear with the 305 nittos and 4:10's and hold the he** on. It is crazy fast..

03-28-2010, 01:09 PM	#1
jag107 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM M6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Corona, Ca Posts: 221	Richmond 4.10 install Q I would have a shop do the install for me. The question is, do I need to buy the full installation kit along with the gears, or would a shop be able to do it without the kit? Thanks __________________ Placed order: 02.25.2010 Took delivery: 04.06.2010 Halltech Yellowjacket CAI, Mike Norris catch can, VMAX PTB, JBA Shorty headers Hi Flow cats & axleback, Magnaflow Tru X pipe, Eibach F&R sway bars & end links

03-28-2010, 01:21 PM	#2
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,187 View My Garage	I would buy the full installation kit. __________________ Jannetty Racing JRE Street Package

03-28-2010, 01:30 PM	#4
jag107 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM M6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Corona, Ca Posts: 221	Thanks guys! Any idea what a shop would charge for labor on this job? __________________ Placed order: 02.25.2010 Took delivery: 04.06.2010 Halltech Yellowjacket CAI, Mike Norris catch can, VMAX PTB, JBA Shorty headers Hi Flow cats & axleback, Magnaflow Tru X pipe, Eibach F&R sway bars & end links

03-28-2010, 01:39 PM	#6
jag107 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM M6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Corona, Ca Posts: 221	So on an M6, I'd need a tune after this mod, or would I be ok with just the Hypertech calibrator ? I guess 4.10's would probably void my powertrain warranty anyway, right? __________________ Placed order: 02.25.2010 Took delivery: 04.06.2010 Halltech Yellowjacket CAI, Mike Norris catch can, VMAX PTB, JBA Shorty headers Hi Flow cats & axleback, Magnaflow Tru X pipe, Eibach F&R sway bars & end links

03-31-2010, 06:26 PM	#13
jag107 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM M6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Corona, Ca Posts: 221	Thanks, mark_p. How are you enjoying the change? __________________ Placed order: 02.25.2010 Took delivery: 04.06.2010 Halltech Yellowjacket CAI, Mike Norris catch can, VMAX PTB, JBA Shorty headers Hi Flow cats & axleback, Magnaflow Tru X pipe, Eibach F&R sway bars & end links

03-28-2010, 01:24 PM	#3
ZZcamaro Drives: 2SS w/ ZZ427 Package!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,700	You will need an install kit... Whether your shop feels they need the full kit or the half kit is up to them.

03-30-2010, 08:59 PM	#7
mark_p Drives: 2010 2SSRS m6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis ntn Posts: 225	My shop did mine for 550. No install kit needed. They had to use a couple .010. Shims that were lying around the shop and a new crush sleve from gm. Runs perfect with no noise at any rpm on accel or decell. That's 509 for the gears and 550 =1059. Best 1000 bucks I've spent so far. What a difference

03-31-2010, 12:11 AM	#9
X-treme Horsepower Drives: 2010 LSX Shootout World AM Finalist Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 795	get the install kit we charge 500 for install

03-31-2010, 07:42 AM	#10
mark_p Drives: 2010 2SSRS m6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis ntn Posts: 225	you dont need the whole install kit. It is a wasted 259.00 bucks.. You should not need any of the bearings. Just a few shims and a crush sleeve at most. My contact pattern and back lash were almost perfect with no shims at all. WE tweaked it a little with a couple .01 shims on the carrier to get everything perfect.

04-01-2010, 10:42 AM	#14
mark_p Drives: 2010 2SSRS m6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis ntn Posts: 225	all i can say is let the good times roll...... I have managed to take two mustang guys for a ride that were not ready for raw pin you to your seat power this car has now... Hit second gear with the 305 nittos and 4:10's and hold the he** on. It is crazy fast..

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