Cadillac ATS News/Specs

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Curb weights are wrong too.

All I saw is "starting under 3,400". What are the actual weights?

Do you think the 0 - 60 times are correct also? (says 5.4 0 - 60 for V6)

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

All I saw is "starting under 3,400". What are the actual weights?

Do you think the 0 - 60 times are correct also? (says 5.4 0 - 60 for V6)

2.5L RWD: 3315 lbs, 0-60 in 7.5 seconds
2.0T RWD: 3373 lbs, 0-60 in 5.7 seconds
3.6L RWD: 3461 lbs, 0-60 in 5.4 seconds

Add on the available torque-vectoring AWD system to the 2.0T/3.6L models and the curb weights will of course increase.

[FenwickHockey65]

Regarding pricing...

http://media.cadillac.com/media/us/e.../0507_ats.html

[Indpowr]

Originally Posted by Apex Chase

It is funny, you can build one on Cadillac's website but there is no pricing. Once they are at the dealer I want to go check one out. Might make for a nice daily driver, especially if they build a V model.

Assuming the quality is better than my 08 CTS. Not happy with ours.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

2.5L RWD: 3315 lbs, 0-60 in 7.5 seconds
2.0T RWD: 3373 lbs, 0-60 in 5.7 seconds
3.6L RWD: 3461 lbs, 0-60 in 5.4 seconds

Add on the available torque-vectoring AWD system to the 2.0T/3.6L models and the curb weights will of course increase.

Very good!

Thanks!

[cbass]

Based on that it should put the 6th gen v8 camaro between 3500-3600 lbs. Maybe a little less if things go well. Maybe a little more if things don't go so great.

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by cbass

Based on that it should put the 6th gen v8 camaro between 3500-3600 lbs. Maybe a little less if things go well. Maybe a little more if things don't go so great.

Don't forget the Camaro is a coupe - which should aide in keeping the weight down.

[Big C CamaroSS]

We saw a commercial for the ATS 2 nights ago......nice looking car!!!!

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

Don't forget the Camaro is a coupe - which should aide in keeping the weight down.

Not really. What you save in ditching 2 doors is pretty much made up by having to make the car stronger to compensate for the larger door openings (and, well the larger doors themselves). In the end, it essentially becomes a wash

For example, look at the CTS. The 3.6 coupe weighs 3898 lbs, the sedan comes in at 3844, -44 lbs lighter. On the -V's, its 4209 for the coupe, 4222 on the sedan. So they save 13 lbs there (not sure why the weight gain different but whatever).




Also, for anyone who wants to use the ATS as a benchmark for what the 6th gen will weigh ... we don't know how big the Camaro will be (ie, what variant of Alpha it will use -ATS, CTS, or other), what powertrains it will have, or if GM will include a convertible in the lineup.

If its ATS sized, with no supercharged V8, and coupe only ... yeah, we might have something to go on. But they could easily stick with the current size, have provissions for a 700 hp turbocharged V8, and design it from the start to include a 'vert. All those things would add an unknown amount of weight ontop of what the ATS weighs.

[shank0668]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Not really. What you save in ditching 2 doors is pretty much made up by having to make the car stronger to compensate for the larger door openings (and, well the larger doors themselves). In the end, it essentially becomes a wash

For example, look at the CTS. The 3.6 coupe weighs 3898 lbs, the sedan comes in at 3844, -44 lbs lighter. On the -V's, its 4209 for the coupe, 4222 on the sedan. So they save 13 lbs there (not sure why the weight gain different but whatever).




Also, for anyone who wants to use the ATS as a benchmark for what the 6th gen will weigh ... we don't know how big the Camaro will be (ie, what variant of Alpha it will use -ATS, CTS, or other), what powertrains it will have, or if GM will include a convertible in the lineup.

If its ATS sized, with no supercharged V8, and coupe only ... yeah, we might have something to go on. But they could easily stick with the current size, have provissions for a 700 hp turbocharged V8, and design it from the start to include a 'vert. All those things would add an unknown amount of weight ontop of what the ATS weighs.

I think we will see an ATS based car right around 3600 pounds. However, no one knows anything,

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Not really. What you save in ditching 2 doors is pretty much made up by having to make the car stronger to compensate for the larger door openings (and, well the larger doors themselves). In the end, it essentially becomes a wash

For example, look at the CTS. The 3.6 coupe weighs 3898 lbs, the sedan comes in at 3844, -44 lbs lighter. On the -V's, its 4209 for the coupe, 4222 on the sedan. So they save 13 lbs there (not sure why the weight gain different but whatever).




Also, for anyone who wants to use the ATS as a benchmark for what the 6th gen will weigh ... we don't know how big the Camaro will be (ie, what variant of Alpha it will use -ATS, CTS, or other), what powertrains it will have, or if GM will include a convertible in the lineup.

If its ATS sized, with no supercharged V8, and coupe only ... yeah, we might have something to go on. But they could easily stick with the current size, have provissions for a 700 hp turbocharged V8, and design it from the start to include a 'vert. All those things would add an unknown amount of weight ontop of what the ATS weighs.

Yes, on a car designed from a sedan, you may expect to see little or no weight change. However, the Camaro is a coupe from the ground up- it is just sharing a wheel base from the platform so I think it might come out lighter- time will tell.

[02sscamaro]

I'm willing to bet the 6th gen Camaro 3.6L (if that's the engine they still use in 2014/2015 for the base model) will weight less than ATS 3.6L.

ATS 3.6L= 4 doors/ 2+3
Camaro 3.6L = 2 doors 2+2

ATS 3.6L = more tech/safety/magnetic ride etc.
Camaro 3.6L= less tech/luxury options

all SHOULD equal a lighter curb weight

On another note, for those who haven't seen it yet here is the CUE which is rumored to trickle down to other GM models:

Cadillac CUE Walk Through

[truth411]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

2.5L RWD: 3315 lbs, 0-60 in 7.5 seconds
2.0T RWD: 3373 lbs, 0-60 in 5.7 seconds
3.6L RWD: 3461 lbs, 0-60 in 5.4 seconds

Add on the available torque-vectoring AWD system to the 2.0T/3.6L models and the curb weights will of course increase.

I still dont understand GM's logic by not offering a 6spd manual for the V6. A manual v6 ATS would probably weigh 50 lbs lighter than the auto and go 0-60 in about 5.1-5.2 seconds and would be a very fun ride..

[AZCamaroFan]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

2.5L RWD: 3315 lbs, 0-60 in 7.5 seconds
2.0T RWD: 3373 lbs, 0-60 in 5.7 seconds
3.6L RWD: 3461 lbs, 0-60 in 5.4 seconds

Add on the available torque-vectoring AWD system to the 2.0T/3.6L models and the curb weights will of course increase.

Originally Posted by 02sscamaro

I'm willing to bet the 6th gen Camaro 3.6L (if that's the engine they still use in 2014/2015 for the base model) will weight less than ATS 3.6L.

ATS 3.6L= 4 doors/ 2+3
Camaro 3.6L = 2 doors 2+2

ATS 3.6L = more tech/safety/magnetic ride etc.
Camaro 3.6L= less tech/luxury options

all SHOULD equal a lighter curb weight

On another note, for those who haven't seen it yet here is the CUE which is rumored to trickle down to other GM models:

Cadillac CUE Walk Through

well a 6thgen in the 3,400- 3,500 range would be awesome. I would assume it might have less sound deadening material, less weight in general in the interior than a Cadillac. Of course, it might also be longer.