Comprehensive weight savings list for the V6 (LLT) - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

BaylorCamaro · 12-21-2012, 03:30 PM

I'm creating this thread for a couple of reasons. First, I'm getting into auto cross and I've pretty much maxed out my power, so the next thing to do is reduce weight and up my suspension. Second I've seen a lot of people (with and without V6's) post about what they can do for weight savings. However there is no comprehensive list and what's worse is that the response people give is "Oh you can save about X-Y weight with this mod." A lot of people's responses are estimates and it's becoming increasingly difficult to get concrete information.

I am just now starting to look into the various weight of pieces in our car and I will update as I find them. Anyone is free to contribute to this and I will update this post. However please reference your source, other wise this is just another thread based of hear-say and speculation.

OEM Weight

Exhaust
Mufflers (pair) - 48 lbs
Headers (pair) - 40 lbs

RS OEM Wheel Weight (per wheel)
Front - 30.3 lbs
Rear - 32 lbs

RS OEM Tire Weight (per tire)
Front - 32 lbs
Rear - 36 lbs

OEM Brake Weight (per wheel)
V6 Front Rotor - 22.0 lbs
V6 Rear Rotor - 17.3 lbs
SS Front Brake Rotor - 25.4 lbs
SS Rear Brake Rotor - 24 lbs
SS Front Caliper - 11.4 lbs
SS Rear Caliper - 7.4 lbs

Seat Weight
2LT Front Drivers Seat - 54.6
2LT Front Pass. seat - 44 lbs
Rear Seat Bottom - 10.2 lbs
Rear Seat Back - 28 lbs

Other
RS Headlights 20 lbs (10 lbs per)
Spare wheel & tire - 40 lbs
Jack & lug wrench - 8 lbs
Battery - 45 lbs
A/C EVAPORATOR CORE ASSY. - 13.4 lbs
A/C COMPRESSOR - 13.2 lbs
A/C CONDENSER - 6.4 lbs
A/C-HEAT BLOWER MOTOR ASSY - 4.2 lbs
A/C LINES AND DUCTING - 7.6 lbs
A/C FIREWALL COVER - 3.6 lbs
DRIVERS AIR BAG - 1.6 lbs
PASSENGER AIR BAG -5.4 lbs
SIDE AIR BAG (EACH) - 3.2 lbs
FIREWALL INSULATION - 2.8 lbs
FLOOR INSULATION - 12 lbs
TRUNK CARPET AND WELL COVER 15.2 lbs
TRUNK-LID STRUTS (PAIR) - 1 lbs
FRONT BUMPER - 14.6 lbs
REAR BUMPER - 26.4 lbs
RADIO - 4 lbs
DOOR SPEAKERS (PAIR) - 3.6 lbs
FLOOR MATS (FRONT PAIR) - 4.8 lbs
CENTER CONSOLE - 8.2 lbs
EMERGENCY BRAKE LEVER W/CABLES - 6.2 lbs
FRONT SEAT BELTS (PAIR) - 6 lbs
REAR SEAT BELTS (PAIR) - 3.6 lbs
HOOD - 25.3 lbs
HOOD INSULATION - 1.2 lbs
HORNS (PAIR) - 1.4 lbs
WIPER ASSEMBLY W/MOTOR - 8.6 lbs
WINDSHIELD COWL PLASTIC - 3.6 lbs
SS DRIVESHAFT 6 SPEED MANUAL - 24 lbs
FUEL TANK SHIELD - 2.8 lbs
DRIVE SHAFT HEAT SHIELD - .8 lbs
SS TOCK AIR BOX - 7 lbs
V6 Engine Cover - 2.5 lbs
Washer Bottle (Empty/full) - 2 lbs / 12 lbs

Aftermarket Weight

Exhaust
MRT V2 (pair) - 19 lbs
OBX Headers (pair) - 24 lbs
BBK Headers (pair) - 21.67 lbs
BBK HFC (pair) - 6.71

Aftermarket Wheel Weight (per wheel)
TSW Nurburgring 20x9 - 24 lbs
TSW Nurburgring 20x10 - 24.5 lbs

Aftermarket Tire Weight (per tire)
255/35ZR20 Hankook Ventus V12s - 27 lbs
285/30ZR20 Hankook Ventus V12s - 31 lbs
275/40/20 General G-max tires 275/40/20 - 30 lbs

Brake Weight
R1 Concept Rotors V6 (front) - 20.8 lbs (per rotor)
R1 Concept Rotors V6 (rear) - 15.6 lbs (per rotor)

SOURCES
-OEM Muffler weight thanks to scrming, page 1 post 1
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ght=mrt+weight
-OEM wheel and tire weight and TSW wheel weight thanks to Beauwulf, page 2 post #48
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=123746&page=2
-Large List of things thanks to BMR guy, page 1 post 1
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight+reduction
-General G-max tires, Engine Cover and Wash Bottle weight thanks to kjkjr27, this thread post #3
-Stock mufflers & headers, OBX Headers, MRT V2 muffler weight thanks to rtcat600man, this thread post # 16
-Spare wheel & tire, jack, lug wrench and stock battery weight thanks to camaro2lt, this thread post # 19
-RS Headlights thanks to camaro2lt, this thread post # 47
-Brake Rotor weight thanks to rtcat600man, this thread post # 53
-BBK Header & HFC weight thanks to kjkjr27, this thread post # 78

BaylorCamaro · 12-21-2012, 03:58 PM

(Reserved)

So thanks to the post that BMR did with the weight of A LOT of things on their SS, it gives us a great idea. However I still need a solid source with the weight of the stock exhaust (headers, cats, mufflers, etc). Also aftermarket exhaust weight would be good to know.

kjkjr27 · 12-21-2012, 04:02 PM

Awesome I've been "weighting" for something like this for the v6!

I know the engine cover is 2.5lbs lol and the stock washer bottle is 2lbs empty

Source: Took them off myself and weighed them

Also I have General G-max tires 275/40/20 and those weigh 30lbs each
source: http://www.mavistire.com/ProductCart...s.asp?id=29624

10RsCamaro · 12-21-2012, 04:05 PM

Nice Guide! I know there was a thread just like this, but for the camaro in general (not v6 specific). Looks good and thanks for the time it took to post this!

Lil' Nasty · 12-21-2012, 04:35 PM

Stock Washer bottle is about 15 pounds filled up

OOLIE · 12-21-2012, 05:51 PM

Great resource! Thanks for taking the time Baylor.

KMPrenger · 12-21-2012, 06:20 PM

I'm thinking that RTcat600man will have some good info for you.

I'd love the know the weights of various tires so I can maybe lose a few lbs of rotating mass that way in the future. I hear the General-Tire GMax tires are good performers for a good price, but I wonder what they weigh? I believe RTcat is running those as well.

kjkjr27 · 12-21-2012, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I'm thinking that RTcat600man will have some good info for you.

I'd love the know the weights of various tires so I can maybe lose a few lbs of rotating mass that way in the future. I hear the General-Tire GMax tires are good performers for a good price, but I wonder what they weigh? I believe RTcat is running those as well.

I updated my original post and added the weights of the general gmax tires. I too am running them. The 275/40/20 each weigh 30lbs.

KMPrenger · 12-21-2012, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjkjr27

I updated my original post and added the weights of the general gmax tires. I too am running them. The 275/40/20 each weigh 30lbs.

Yeah, I just saw that...that is excellent savings, at least compared to the 36lbs of the stock rear tires.

I'd like to run 20x9s all around when/if I get a new set of rims for next summer, and hopefully the rims will weigh a tad less.
Could lose a 3 - 4 lbs each of rotating mass in the fronts and possibly 6 - 8 or more lbs per side in the rear. Thats good stuff!

OOLIE · 12-21-2012, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I'm thinking that RTcat600man will have some good info for you.

I'd love the know the weights of various tires so I can maybe lose a few lbs of rotating mass that way in the future. I hear the General-Tire GMax tires are good performers for a good price, but I wonder what they weigh? I believe RTcat is running those as well.

Tire rack gives the weight of most tires. That is what I used great resource.

KMPrenger · 12-21-2012, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OOLIE

Tire rack gives the weight of most tires. That is what I used great resource.

Yep after I posted that I went and looked there. But by the time I got back here to update it was already posted lol

ChadG · 12-21-2012, 08:38 PM

I've been looking into the TSW Nurburgrings and the Forgestar F14s to replace my steel heritage wheels, but if you're doing autocross I would imagine your best bet is to do with wheels smaller than 20".

Even Pedders went with 19's on their build:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90270

Anyone have solid numbers on how much the 18" Steel Heritage Wheels on the LS weigh? 18" TSW's and Forgestars are about 18.5 lbs . . . which is crazy light.

kjkjr27 · 12-21-2012, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadG

I've been looking into the TSW Nurburgrings and the Forgestar F14s to replace my steel heritage wheels, but if you're doing autocross I would imagine your best bet is to do with wheels smaller than 20".

Even Pedders went with 19's on their build:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90270

Anyone have solid numbers on how much the 18" Steel Heritage Wheels on the LS weigh? 18" TSW's and Forgestars are about 18.5 lbs . . . which is crazy light.

If you go to the wiki section they list all the weights of the different wheels/tires

b4z · 12-21-2012, 09:50 PM

Definitely go smaller than 20s. It's not just the weight of the wheel but the larger diameter is harder to start and stop. Try to find 18s. And also get a shorter sidewall tire. That will get you slightly better gearing, less tire weight and get the car a little bit lower. And don't forget that a 18" tire is less expensive. Guys that are serious about autoxing will put the smallest diameter wheel that will fit over their brake rotors to save money on tires.

12-21-2012, 03:30 PM	#1
BaylorCamaro Track > 1/4 Mile Drives: 2016 C7 Z51 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 6,072 View My Garage	Comprehensive weight savings list for the V6 (LLT) I'm creating this thread for a couple of reasons. First, I'm getting into auto cross and I've pretty much maxed out my power, so the next thing to do is reduce weight and up my suspension. Second I've seen a lot of people (with and without V6's) post about what they can do for weight savings. However there is no comprehensive list and what's worse is that the response people give is "Oh you can save about X-Y weight with this mod." A lot of people's responses are estimates and it's becoming increasingly difficult to get concrete information. I am just now starting to look into the various weight of pieces in our car and I will update as I find them. Anyone is free to contribute to this and I will update this post. However please reference your source, other wise this is just another thread based of hear-say and speculation. *OEM Weight* Exhaust Mufflers (pair) - 48 lbs Headers (pair) - 40 lbs RS OEM Wheel Weight (per wheel) Front - 30.3 lbs Rear - 32 lbs RS OEM Tire Weight (per tire) Front - 32 lbs Rear - 36 lbs OEM Brake Weight (per wheel) V6 Front Rotor - 22.0 lbs V6 Rear Rotor - 17.3 lbs SS Front Brake Rotor - 25.4 lbs SS Rear Brake Rotor - 24 lbs SS Front Caliper - 11.4 lbs SS Rear Caliper - 7.4 lbs Seat Weight 2LT Front Drivers Seat - 54.6 2LT Front Pass. seat - 44 lbs Rear Seat Bottom - 10.2 lbs Rear Seat Back - 28 lbs Other RS Headlights 20 lbs (10 lbs per) Spare wheel & tire - 40 lbs Jack & lug wrench - 8 lbs Battery - 45 lbs A/C EVAPORATOR CORE ASSY. - 13.4 lbs A/C COMPRESSOR - 13.2 lbs A/C CONDENSER - 6.4 lbs A/C-HEAT BLOWER MOTOR ASSY - 4.2 lbs A/C LINES AND DUCTING - 7.6 lbs A/C FIREWALL COVER - 3.6 lbs DRIVERS AIR BAG - 1.6 lbs PASSENGER AIR BAG -5.4 lbs SIDE AIR BAG (EACH) - 3.2 lbs FIREWALL INSULATION - 2.8 lbs FLOOR INSULATION - 12 lbs TRUNK CARPET AND WELL COVER 15.2 lbs TRUNK-LID STRUTS (PAIR) - 1 lbs FRONT BUMPER - 14.6 lbs REAR BUMPER - 26.4 lbs RADIO - 4 lbs DOOR SPEAKERS (PAIR) - 3.6 lbs FLOOR MATS (FRONT PAIR) - 4.8 lbs CENTER CONSOLE - 8.2 lbs EMERGENCY BRAKE LEVER W/CABLES - 6.2 lbs FRONT SEAT BELTS (PAIR) - 6 lbs REAR SEAT BELTS (PAIR) - 3.6 lbs HOOD - 25.3 lbs HOOD INSULATION - 1.2 lbs HORNS (PAIR) - 1.4 lbs WIPER ASSEMBLY W/MOTOR - 8.6 lbs WINDSHIELD COWL PLASTIC - 3.6 lbs SS DRIVESHAFT 6 SPEED MANUAL - 24 lbs FUEL TANK SHIELD - 2.8 lbs DRIVE SHAFT HEAT SHIELD - .8 lbs SS TOCK AIR BOX - 7 lbs V6 Engine Cover - 2.5 lbs Washer Bottle (Empty/full) - 2 lbs / 12 lbs Aftermarket Weight Exhaust MRT V2 (pair) - 19 lbs OBX Headers (pair) - 24 lbs BBK Headers (pair) - 21.67 lbs BBK HFC (pair) - 6.71 Aftermarket Wheel Weight (per wheel) TSW Nurburgring 20x9 - 24 lbs TSW Nurburgring 20x10 - 24.5 lbs Aftermarket Tire Weight (per tire) 255/35ZR20 Hankook Ventus V12s - 27 lbs 285/30ZR20 Hankook Ventus V12s - 31 lbs 275/40/20 General G-max tires 275/40/20 - 30 lbs Brake Weight R1 Concept Rotors V6 (front) - 20.8 lbs (per rotor) R1 Concept Rotors V6 (rear) - 15.6 lbs (per rotor) SOURCES -OEM Muffler weight thanks to scrming, page 1 post 1 http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ght=mrt+weight -OEM wheel and tire weight and TSW wheel weight thanks to Beauwulf, page 2 post #48 http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=123746&page=2 -Large List of things thanks to BMR guy, page 1 post 1 http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight+reduction -General G-max tires, Engine Cover and Wash Bottle weight thanks to kjkjr27, this thread post #3 -Stock mufflers & headers, OBX Headers, MRT V2 muffler weight thanks to rtcat600man, this thread post # 16 -Spare wheel & tire, jack, lug wrench and stock battery weight thanks to camaro2lt, this thread post # 19 -RS Headlights thanks to camaro2lt, this thread post # 47 -Brake Rotor weight thanks to rtcat600man, this thread post # 53 -BBK Header & HFC weight thanks to kjkjr27, this thread post # 78 __________________ Automotive YouTube Channel / Texas World Speedway / MSR Houston Last edited by BaylorCamaro; 03-22-2013 at 02:39 PM.

12-21-2012, 03:58 PM	#2
BaylorCamaro Track > 1/4 Mile Drives: 2016 C7 Z51 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 6,072 View My Garage	(Reserved) So thanks to the post that BMR did with the weight of A LOT of things on their SS, it gives us a great idea. However I still need a solid source with the weight of the stock exhaust (headers, cats, mufflers, etc). Also aftermarket exhaust weight would be good to know. __________________ Automotive YouTube Channel / Texas World Speedway / MSR Houston

12-21-2012, 04:35 PM	#5
Lil' Nasty [COTW 4/13/15] Drives: Supercharged LLT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 5,957	Stock Washer bottle is about 15 pounds filled up __________________ LiL' Nasty's Build Journal

12-21-2012, 05:51 PM	#6
OOLIE Drives: 2011 LS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL Posts: 1,643	Great resource! Thanks for taking the time Baylor. __________________

12-21-2012, 06:20 PM	#7
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	I'm thinking that RTcat600man will have some good info for you. I'd love the know the weights of various tires so I can maybe lose a few lbs of rotating mass that way in the future. I hear the General-Tire GMax tires are good performers for a good price, but I wonder what they weigh? I believe RTcat is running those as well. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

12-21-2012, 04:02 PM	#3
kjkjr27 COTW 9/16/13 Drives: 2011 2LT/RS Camaro IOM Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Syracuse Posts: 10,089	Awesome I've been "weighting" for something like this for the v6! I know the engine cover is 2.5lbs lol and the stock washer bottle is 2lbs empty Source: Took them off myself and weighed them Also I have General G-max tires 275/40/20 and those weigh 30lbs each source: http://www.mavistire.com/ProductCart...s.asp?id=29624 __________________ Twitch Youtube Last edited by kjkjr27; 12-21-2012 at 04:17 PM.

12-21-2012, 04:05 PM	#4
10RsCamaro Slow v6 Drives: Automatic Automobile Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Nj Posts: 526	Nice Guide! I know there was a thread just like this, but for the camaro in general (not v6 specific). Looks good and thanks for the time it took to post this! __________________ Full bolt on 2lt/Rs. Any questions? always a pm away! Obx/Mace/Rx/Mrt/Vararam/Bcam/4.11 Gears/SS Brakes USAF. Stationed in TX

12-21-2012, 08:38 PM	#12
ChadG Drives: 2010 Black Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,679 View My Garage	I've been looking into the TSW Nurburgrings and the Forgestar F14s to replace my steel heritage wheels, but if you're doing autocross I would imagine your best bet is to do with wheels smaller than 20". Even Pedders went with 19's on their build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90270 Anyone have solid numbers on how much the 18" Steel Heritage Wheels on the LS weigh? 18" TSW's and Forgestars are about 18.5 lbs . . . which is crazy light.

12-21-2012, 09:50 PM	#14
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	Definitely go smaller than 20s. It's not just the weight of the wheel but the larger diameter is harder to start and stop. Try to find 18s. And also get a shorter sidewall tire. That will get you slightly better gearing, less tire weight and get the car a little bit lower. And don't forget that a 18" tire is less expensive. Guys that are serious about autoxing will put the smallest diameter wheel that will fit over their brake rotors to save money on tires.