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Old 11-21-2009, 06:57 PM   #15
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if you really are on the team for the camaro. . .you might know something we don't. but that's like saying "60% of the time it works everytime."
If GM announced they were going to make only 500, there surely would be bloody cries of "MAKE MORE!!!!!"

So my question is - what production volume creates the impression that there are too many? When does it lose it's "speciality" such that someone would turn away from buying one?
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:15 PM   #16
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If GM announced they were going to make only 500, there surely would be bloody cries of "MAKE MORE!!!!!"

So my question is - what production volume creates the impression that there are too many? When does it lose it's "speciality" such that someone would turn away from buying one?
if only 500 were made the price would be through the roof. cost of R&D + mark ups. I personally don't want a car that's 60k just because there's not many being produced. plus that would put it way over the gt500 price. which from what we've seen would be what the Z28 was aiming for. people would turn away from buying it because they can't afford it.

they need to produce enough that lowers the cost, and meets demand.

people don't want too many to be made because they want to have the product no one else has. they want the attention because they have it. I say screw that just give me the Z28 and let me drive it like it was built for. (assuming a lot about the z28 in that last sentence).

if I wanted a status symbol I would set my sights higher. ie ZR1. with as much I spend deployed I certainly could get one. but this elitist crap kills me.
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:17 PM   #17
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I'm new here, fill me in, i dont see what the big deal is with in the Z. I saw the pics from the SEMA show (some thought it may be the Z) and i dont see much difference
read around. there are plenty of threads that people explain what Z28 means to them.
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:25 PM   #18
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fair enough, i'll read around, just didnt know if the car was going to be something really special or not
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:28 PM   #19
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fair enough, i'll read around, just didnt know if the car was going to be something really special or not
depends on what you consider special. plus 2 it hasn't been officially announced and we have no idea what it will actually be. besides bad ass.
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:59 PM   #20
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...just give me the Z28 and let me drive it like it was built for.
Amen.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:08 AM   #21
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Well producing 20,302 Z/28s in the '69 model year certainly didn't seem to diminish or take away anything from the Z/28 name and/or heritage. I don't see any reason to limit the numbers unless someone is looking for "snob appeal", do you also have concerns about how many SS Camaros they make or is your concern only with the Z/28?
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:31 AM   #22
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I dont think they'll wait at all, I already own an 2SS and I'll be getting a Z28 as soon as their available. The car will probably be 45-50k its just a handful of people who can actually afford it.

Thats why it wont hurt sales for the camaro, I'm taking huge bets that the V6 will eventually pass the SS in sales.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:08 PM   #23
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I dont think they'll wait at all, I already own an 2SS and I'll be getting a Z28 as soon as their available. The car will probably be 45-50k its just a handful of people who can actually afford it.

Thats why it wont hurt sales for the camaro, I'm taking huge bets that the V6 will eventually pass the SS in sales.
this is where i was at.......but as much as i want a Z28, i really wanted a brute LS7/LS9 rather than a Supercharger and if the body kit doesn't closely reflect BB in Transformers2........that may be a deal braker for me......
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:42 PM   #24
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I do believe that GM is going to build the Z28 however I don't think we will hear much about it till it's very close to being released. Reason being in my opinion is obviously the Camaro is selling well and if they announce a new top end model now it could and probably would affect current sales. I know for a fact the rumor of the Z28 is the only thing right now that is stopping me from picking up an SS and slapping a TVS 2300 blower on it and calling it a day.

I think GM will ride this hot wave they have right now with the current Camaro and right when sales and hype start to die down then they will annouce the Z28 to build interest back up in the Camaro. I could be completely wrong but thats just my thought. Anyone have any different thoughts or possibly agree with that ?

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Sound reasoning for sure.
I also think that with the amount of enthusiasts and Z hopefulls that we have around here, SOMEONE will know ahead of time when they will start production/selling. Either way I hope to be near the top of the list at my dealer. The only thing that may prevent me from buying one ASAP is a potential SEP 2010 deployment. Either way it will be mine....oh yes...it will be mine!!!
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:47 PM   #25
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I'm sure they will come out with a Z-28. I understand their will always be something faster however, if it doesn't have 550+ HP to put the GT 500 in check...they can keep it. I'll just roll with the 2SS and keep saving for the Vette.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:52 PM   #26
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sounds logical
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Old 11-29-2009, 03:25 PM   #27
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Lets look at the logisticsof the Z28- 1. There is an early photo of Sung yup lee working on a clay model which badging on the grille clearly shows it to be a Z28. 2. there were artist conception drawings of the proposed Z28. This to me indicates that the plans were laid for the Z28 option, but was dropped due to current economic conditions. The Z28 will come back I believe in the next year or two after everything settles back down with the economy. But.....the idea was still there none the less, now how the idea develops into a finished product, the design staff will dictate. Will it be a V-6 twin turbo, a normally aspirated LS-7, or maybe even a (gasp) blown LSA or LS-9? Who knows, only the engineers and corporate management will dictate this descision. Time will tell, and we will see.
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I'm all for the Z28... I just hope they keep the production numbers down on the Z.
Personally, I care little about how many they make. If they make a ton of 'em because that's the way we like our Camaros, that means they have succeeded in making the car we wanted all along.

What I care about is that it is powerful, fast, handles well in curves, sounds like an angry Bengal tiger, looks like a cross between a Pit Bull and a rocket ship on wheels, and last but not least, EATS ponies for breakfast.
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