422bhp *naturaly aspirated* alloytec 6 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

MadMaxx · 05-24-2009, 05:03 PM

Friggin' Aussies are nuts...

http://www.performancemanifolds.com....ndfigures-283/

More to come as I get info from them LOL

Hemlawk · 05-24-2009, 05:37 PM

wow, thats freakin nuts...

MadMaxx · 05-24-2009, 05:50 PM

Yep... there is much potential in this.

Hemlawk · 05-24-2009, 06:14 PM

What car is that? Is that a GM? I hope those dudes make an intake for our v6 =)

MadMaxx · 05-24-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemlawk

What car is that? Is that a GM? I hope those dudes make an intake for our v6 =)

That's a holden. This intake was developed for the commodore VE (among others), which is the same zeta chassis as our camaro (and 3.6 DOHC motor).

The alloytec platform spans 2.8 to 4.0 (although never seen one produced). From what I can find -- the only real difference is the internals, cam profile and injection type. The heads all appear to be the same, so this intake manifold *should* be a direct bolt-on.

TJ91 · 05-24-2009, 10:09 PM

how much would this set up cost, and would this kill the fuel economy?

UsedTaHaveA68 · 05-24-2009, 11:07 PM

I wouldn't worry about it killing fuel economy so much as your torque curve.

MadMaxx · 05-25-2009, 08:27 AM

Gents,

That's a race motor. It just illustrates that these little bastards can flow to nearly 9K on stock bottom end. In a street car, this really wouldn't be all that helpful...forced induction is still the best method of extracting power of the small displacement.

UsedTaHaveA68 · 05-25-2009, 10:32 AM

Yeah I gathered that from the first dyno graph. They didn't even start the pull until something like 5000RPM hahah. Regardless, that engine would be SWEEEEEEEET in a light car like an S2000. Good to know these engines are tough!

*CamaroSpike23* · 06-06-2009, 07:06 PM

it really bumped the power band around. tho that is on a "full race alloytec engine" compared to a stock engine.

Xanthos · 06-06-2009, 10:50 PM

Keep in mind that the engine that intake manifold is designed for is the fuel injected alloytec, not the direct injection. I'm not sure if it would be usable. The OEM intake manifolds are different, and I'm sure there's a reason for that.

Now, if this is compatible... Well, it'll be going onto my mods list for sure.
- Xanthos

Xanthos · 07-09-2009, 02:50 PM

Sorry for the necro post, but I was looking at this again today (mostly to see if it might be possible to fit one of these on our engine if you just tap a line for the MAP) and I noticed something that seems somewhat important.

Yes, the power band is rediculously high on this engine, but that doesn't seem to be because of the intake manifold, but because of all of the internals work done to it. The intake manifold did nothing but increase the powerband. Over the entire thing.

Something to think about.
- X

Bell040 · 07-09-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanthosV6

Sorry for the necro post, but I was looking at this again today (mostly to see if it might be possible to fit one of these on our engine if you just tap a line for the MAP) and I noticed something that seems somewhat important.

Yes, the power band is rediculously high on this engine, but that doesn't seem to be because of the intake manifold, but because of all of the internals work done to it. The intake manifold did nothing but increase the powerband. Over the entire thing.

......

Something to think about.
- X

and no real improvement until your over 5000 RPM???

Xanthos · 07-09-2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell040

and no real improvement until your over 5000 RPM???

Yes, that seems to be the case.

Considering that, and the fact that it goes for 2000 AUD (about 1600 american dollars) I'm not sure it would be a worthwhile mod for the price. Plus, I'm not entirely convinced that the same gains couldn't be realized by porting the stock intake manifold.
- X

05-24-2009, 05:03 PM	#1
MadMaxx Master of the V6 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: NC Posts: 239 View My Garage	*422bhp naturaly aspirated* alloytec 6** Friggin' Aussies are nuts... http://www.performancemanifolds.com....ndfigures-283/ More to come as I get info from them LOL

05-24-2009, 05:37 PM	#2
Hemlawk AwesomeBillDawesonville Drives: CGM 2SS/RS =) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 2,067	wow, thats freakin nuts... __________________ Order placed on 1/13/11 - Purchased 2/22/11 2SS/RS CGM

05-24-2009, 06:14 PM	#4
Hemlawk AwesomeBillDawesonville Drives: CGM 2SS/RS =) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 2,067	What car is that? Is that a GM? I hope those dudes make an intake for our v6 =) __________________ Order placed on 1/13/11 - Purchased 2/22/11 2SS/RS CGM

06-06-2009, 10:50 PM	#11
Xanthos PWA Relapse Drives: Formerly-Stick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 12,588 View My Garage	Keep in mind that the engine that intake manifold is designed for is the fuel injected alloytec, not the direct injection. I'm not sure if it would be usable. The OEM intake manifolds are different, and I'm sure there's a reason for that. Now, if this is compatible... Well, it'll be going onto my mods list for sure. - Xanthos __________________ 2017 1LT/RS A8 Hyper Blue Metallic

07-09-2009, 02:50 PM	#12
Xanthos PWA Relapse Drives: Formerly-Stick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 12,588 View My Garage	Sorry for the necro post, but I was looking at this again today (mostly to see if it might be possible to fit one of these on our engine if you just tap a line for the MAP) and I noticed something that seems somewhat important. Yes, the power band is rediculously high on this engine, but that doesn't seem to be because of the intake manifold, but because of all of the internals work done to it. The intake manifold did nothing but increase the powerband. Over the entire thing. Something to think about. - X __________________ 2017 1LT/RS A8 Hyper Blue Metallic

05-24-2009, 05:50 PM	#3
MadMaxx Master of the V6 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: NC Posts: 239 View My Garage	Yep... there is much potential in this.

05-24-2009, 10:09 PM	#6
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	how much would this set up cost, and would this kill the fuel economy?

05-24-2009, 11:07 PM	#7
UsedTaHaveA68 Drives: Hyundai Sonata Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 497	I wouldn't worry about it killing fuel economy so much as your torque curve.

05-25-2009, 08:27 AM	#8
MadMaxx Master of the V6 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: NC Posts: 239 View My Garage	Gents, That's a race motor. It just illustrates that these little bastards can flow to nearly 9K on stock bottom end. In a street car, this really wouldn't be all that helpful...forced induction is still the best method of extracting power of the small displacement.

05-25-2009, 10:32 AM	#9
UsedTaHaveA68 Drives: Hyundai Sonata Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 497	Yeah I gathered that from the first dyno graph. They didn't even start the pull until something like 5000RPM hahah. Regardless, that engine would be SWEEEEEEEET in a light car like an S2000. Good to know these engines are tough!