Twin Turbo Comparison

[Camaro Dude]

[mp51998]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

I second that!

[MANNYS2SS/RS]

I love looking at Andy's work, the men is an artist.

[IPSjeff]

Originally Posted by mylftft

2013 ZL1, ADM built, Agp kit, S261 turbos, 1074 rwhp at 20 psi with a LS9 cam, Trick Flow 255's, motor, fuel system & turbos capable of 1400 rwhp but my 6L90 is not at the moment, it will be soon, 201.9 at The Texas Mile, 1/4 times will be made public soon with a few tweaks, mph is stupid fast already, 3 inch Magnaflow exhaust, car is very quiet, LPE intake with liquid to air intercooler inside the intake. The entire system is above the frame rails.

Nice set-up
How much boost were you running for the 201mph pass?
Jeff

[mylftft]

My boost controller is the PCS D200, we ramped in the boost progressively, it was at 19 psi of boost & 6800 rpm crossing the finish line. My transmission is the stock 6L90, stock converter, stock rearend & gears. The car was on the stock Good Years & fought for traction the whole weekend, they were the only tires I had rated to go over 200 mph, when I do The Mile again the car will be on Hoosiers. My car was the 1st ZL1 to go over 200 in a standing mile & my next goal is the 1/4 mile record for a ZL1. The LPE intake works awesome, keeps IAT's low after idling through staging with the ac running, burnout & a full 1 mile blast, I think it looks badass also!

[mylftft]

This is the iat data log from the 201.9 pass.

[IPSjeff]

Originally Posted by SRT10KLLR

Here is a comparo but the AGP and IPS entry level were not out yet when this was made.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94520

BTW, I installed the IPS non-entry level. Great kit with nothing nut the best parts and welds.

I am going to update this and just focus it on the various "Twin" kits available now for those wanting to make easy comparisons. The whole thing needs updated I am sure so if the info is readily available it shouldn't take long to toss back up.

In looking up the specs on the various Borg Warner turbos being used in the AGP kit, here is a quick comparo of the flow ratings of the Garrett options we use Vs the BW options from AGP:

IPS Stage 1 Garrett: 53lb/Min
IPS Stage 2 Garrett: GT3586R: 75lb/Min
IPS Stage 2 Garrett: GT3794R: 90lb/Min

AGP S200sx 5161 BW: 47lb/Min
AGP S256_RS BW: 56lb/Min
AGP S261_RS BW: 70lb/Min

I will look back up the ratings on the Turbonetics & Precision turbos (Used in the Hellion & Granatelli kits) and update them as well.

You can get into all kinds of wheel size comparisons (Comp and turbine wheel inducers and exducers) and turbine A/R sizes and such but all of that is what ends up being able to move "X" amount of air. That rating is either a lb/Min flow rating or a Horsepower number.
Jeff

PS -- The GT3794R's are what we used on DarthEmma's car to make 1300rwhp through the TH400 and trap 169mph.

[Unreal]

For reference, AGP is a garret/precision dealer too and can supply all the same turbos if the customer wanted. The BW work great and are super reliable but if someone wanted any of those other turbos you just have to ask and pay the difference.

[IPSjeff]

Originally Posted by Unreal

For reference, AGP is a garret/precision dealer too and can supply all the same turbos if the customer wanted. The BW work great and are super reliable but if someone wanted any of those other turbos you just have to ask and pay the difference.

Kit pricing goes out the window though so I am just going off the options listed on their website.

Adding on a pair of $2199 turbos (So $4398) that we use on our Stage 2 kit tends to up the price-point a wee bit:

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...de=NTGT3586HTA

We have two separate kits (Stage 1 and 2) because it isn't possible to just swap out a GT35R with Tial V-band SS housings in place of a standard T3 housing in terms of the adapter pipes. Since all our Stage 2 Garrett options are ball-bearing, coolant lines and fittings and such all get added in as well.

It really is two different kits just to be able to utilize the flow advantages of the awesome Tial 1.02 A/R SS housings on the Garrett GT35R turbos.
Jeff

[Pat93]

Bump.

Anymore experiences on the twin turbo set up? Wanting to get up to 700rwhp but maintain reliability.

Another question: with the turbos sitting low, would they suck up water if I happen to be stupid and drive on a rainy day?

[stevieturbo]

Unless you drove through a river...you should be fine.