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08-06-2009, 08:20 PM | #254 |
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As has been stated here already a car is not rated on how the car looks after a crash, but in how well it protects the occupants from the impact both through actual physical intrusion into the cabin and through the transmission of the force of the crash into the cabin which may not actually leave major physical distortion post impact. In the case of the Camaro video you can actually see the doors/roof of the car distort temporarily as the force of the crash moves through the front of the vehicle into the cabin area. Watch the video of the crash tests for the Mustang and Challenger, you don't see the same distortion as the force from the impact travels through the car which would tend to suggest those forces are being absorbed and or dissapated before they reach the passenger. Without doubt that isn't helping the Camaro.
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08-06-2009, 08:46 PM | #256 |
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Are there actually any of us within this thread that are structural engineers having a real understanding of kinetic energy, structural statics, or knowledge of how forces are actually transmitted through rigid structures? Just because the dodge or ford doesn't crumple beyond the front clip doesn't say there are not similar forces continuing into the cabin. That doesn't mean that forces stopped at the dashboard. As far as we know the steering wheels could have ended up in the rear seat.
I don't think any of us would want to be subjected to the forces recorded in any of these vehicles. These tests are simply conducted as controlled comparitive samples. As I have said several posts back. The actual safety performance of all three of these cars will not be fully understood for several years unitil actual road crash data is collected and observed. Conduct 300 real road impacts and you could likely see 300 differing results in all three cars. |
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WARNING EXTREME CONTENT: http://www.winnipegheights.com/forum...d.php?t=135661 what's the crash rating on THAT?? |
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08-06-2009, 08:52 PM | #258 |
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Here is another smart car incident.
http://imgur.com/kGUKD.png |
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I am a bit disappointed with the 4-star rating. Mind you, I feel perfectly safe in a car with a 4-star rating, but the main justification for the Camaro's weight has been for getting the absolute best safety ratings. If all the excess weight went towards safety, I'd hate to see how bad things would be if it weighed in the 3500 lb range.
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First Off, I could be wrong but I think calling me "Idiot" is a violation of forum rules, but I don't really care what you call me. Secondly, my point was that If you truly wanted a 100% survivable car it's do-able...but you will sit behind a 15 foot long hood with 6 crush zones, in a 12 foot wide car that is no taller than 3 feet so it doesn't roll over. Everyone will wear a 6 point safety harness and a helmet with a HANS device, a nomex fire suit, and drive from inside an airtight ejectable compartment with a fire supression system rated to withstand 50G impacts. Sounds a little crazy right......my point is that you can't engineer a car to be 100% safe without sacrificing other things, like appearance and driveability. Do you think an extra crash star is worth a couple hundred more pounds to our already hefty Camaro? What about if it required the front and back to be higher for better crash results? Maybe the windshield needs to be bigger and set forward more at more of an angle. The A pillars need to be twice as big to reinforce the new larger front crush zone. By the time you are done getting a 5 star rating you might have a different car. I think the car is fine as is, and all you need to do is not drive like a moron and you will be fine.
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I read somewhere that it was rated 5 star........................ hmmmm
Ok that was side impact. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33918 |
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Hum strange cause 4th Gen's had 5 stars frontal. Well hopefully they can take a look at it again in terms of maybe improving it a bit for future year runs.
But I think this is still one of the safest cars GM has ever made. |
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Just to let you guys know. neither of those cars smashed, are Smart cars. Smart cars use a 3lug pattern not 5
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Umm...yes it does, but I think I know why. Quote:
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