Video: 2012 Camaro ZL1 vs. 750 HP Red Devil 69 Camaro - Page 5 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Camaro_hx · 08-01-2012, 05:24 AM

niCe video... could of been better for the all new lightweight ZL1.

What have we learnt from the video..? still after 5 generations, the '69 Camaro beats the new ZL1! LOOOL

khislop007 · 08-01-2012, 08:40 AM

Nice video. That '69 is an awesome car. Would love to have that in my garage!

Mr.R · 08-01-2012, 09:28 AM

So it's 750 RWHP vs 500 RWHP for the ZL1....

I LOVE the sound.

ParisTNDude · 08-01-2012, 12:15 PM

I thought the sound of the 69 was a whole lot like that of a ZR1...but, I'm getting old! This was an awesome comparo. I don't see a lot of older Stangs being modded to the degree of the Red Devil....am I wrong?

jksynergy · 08-01-2012, 09:07 PM

Nice vid. Looks like fun day at work.

Rallyman6 · 08-02-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by srt0739

Exhaust and engine sound on both are great and love the flames exit the 69's exhaust at time 5:30 something on the vid.

VADER SS L99 · 08-02-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MY1STCAMAR0

It needs more, no way around it. It doesn't need 662hp, but it needs an increase..

Your right it needs 680 HP to compete in the current market.

One thing you have to look at with this 69 vs ZL1 comparo is the 69 is a full on aftermarket car costing wayyyyyyy more than the ZL1. The ZL1 is a stock production car costing about 1/3 of the Red Devil. On a side note the Red Devil seems pretty heavy to me. I would have guessed the weight at around 3100 lbs and was way off when I read that it was over 3500lbs. What all did he put in that thing that made it gain so much weight?

GenF-GTS · 10-03-2012, 08:58 AM

Pick your favorite one, the 2012 ZL1 or the 1969 Camaro, old school vs new school.

http://www.res100.com

*radz28* · 10-03-2012, 09:05 AM

Welcome

But... old news

Cool though

mkorgan · 10-03-2012, 09:41 AM

Just my opinion but I think Chevy hit a grand slam with the ZL1. It has been my experience that a lighter car would not drive as smoothly and handle as well. There is a reason that the "Red Devil" is considered more "violent" and "rough" in the video. Also, with more horsepower comes a difficulty in daily drivability (wet roads, overheating, etc) and gas mileage (though I am sure anyone who bought either of these cars would rank that at the bottom of the list in priorities). I would find it nearly impossible to believe that the Red Devil would be as comfortable in a daily 50 mile commute in rush hour traffic as the ZL1. And finally, here is the reason I think the ZL1 is superior. For 20K you can have a Hennesey upgrade to over 700HP that would more than likely put the Red Devil in the rear view mirror or at least bumper to bumper. At 80K you are still 1/3 the cost of recreating the Red Devil AND you have all the comforts and technology of a new car. I have a ZL1, I would love to have the Red Devil. But I think Chevy has delivered beyond my wildest dreams with the ZL1 and with the aftermarket products available, the ZL1 has nothing to be a ashamed of.

JFWJR179 · 10-04-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueclyde

I'm thinking the ZL1 should have about 60 more hp.

I'm thinking 600 RWHP from the factory.

GenF-GTS · 10-07-2012, 03:33 AM

A few comments, they talk about using ZR1 technology and putting what they learned into the ZL1.....
why not use the LS9?
Why not use the carbon brakes?
Why not make it lighter with alloy space frame tech?
Why an 11" rear wheel why not a 12"?

GenF-GTS · 10-10-2012, 06:03 AM

anyone else want to make comments to any of the things i said above?

08-01-2012, 08:40 AM	#58
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08-01-2012, 12:15 PM	#60
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08-01-2012, 05:24 AM	#57
Camaro_hx Account Suspended Drives: 2010 1LT/RS CGM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: KWT Posts: 2,474 View My Garage	niCe video... could of been better for the all new lightweight ZL1. What have we learnt from the video..? still after 5 generations, the '69 Camaro beats the new ZL1! LOOOL

10-03-2012, 09:41 AM	#66
mkorgan Drives: 1970-1/2 Z-28, 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sanford, Fl Posts: 973	Just my opinion but I think Chevy hit a grand slam with the ZL1. It has been my experience that a lighter car would not drive as smoothly and handle as well. There is a reason that the "Red Devil" is considered more "violent" and "rough" in the video. Also, with more horsepower comes a difficulty in daily drivability (wet roads, overheating, etc) and gas mileage (though I am sure anyone who bought either of these cars would rank that at the bottom of the list in priorities). I would find it nearly impossible to believe that the Red Devil would be as comfortable in a daily 50 mile commute in rush hour traffic as the ZL1. And finally, here is the reason I think the ZL1 is superior. For 20K you can have a Hennesey upgrade to over 700HP that would more than likely put the Red Devil in the rear view mirror or at least bumper to bumper. At 80K you are still 1/3 the cost of recreating the Red Devil AND you have all the comforts and technology of a new car. I have a ZL1, I would love to have the Red Devil. But I think Chevy has delivered beyond my wildest dreams with the ZL1 and with the aftermarket products available, the ZL1 has nothing to be a ashamed of.

10-10-2012, 06:03 AM	#69
GenF-GTS Account Suspended Drives: none Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 571	anyone else want to make comments to any of the things i said above?