Long Tubes or Mid Length Headers? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

*TAG UR IT* · 09-24-2006, 02:10 AM

I've been looking for headers to put on my 02 SS for some time now. I have been wanting long tubes w/ a 3 inch Y-pipe, but ran across the Mac mid-length headers also w/ y-pipe. Here's my dilemma. The long tubes are supposed to put out the most hp from what I understand. But they do hang low and will scrape the ground. I wouldn't run cats w/ them. Then, I saw the Mac mid lenght w/ y-pipe minus cats. From what I remember, the mid length don't put out as much hp, but I just don't know. They wouldn't scrape the ground like long tubes. Looking at the Mac mid length, it appears as though the way they hook up to the y-pipe, they might as well just be long tubes.

I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Which ones do I go for???

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boxmonkeyracing · 09-24-2006, 11:32 AM

well long tubes do make more power. usually. do power comparisons (pardon my spelling). also what are you looking at running? 1/4 1/8th or just want power? lol. personally i'd go with the mid. i had them on the TA and I produced plenty of power. at least for me. if I had been a better driver that ta would have been in the 12's. I was in the mid 13's and I was a crappy driver. I learned how to drive a stick in that car. big mistake. but oh well. live and learn. but that's what I would get mids.

*KILLER74Z28* · 09-24-2006, 01:38 PM

I have always read that the long tube headers are the better performer . I have them on my 74 and love them. On the down side I have scraped them more than once on sh*tty roads. Tag my advice to you is to build the car on how it is going to be used. Is a few extra horses worth the aggravation or the worry?

Moose · 09-24-2006, 03:09 PM

Well, I've heard the longtubes are the way to go for more hp.

I have the SLP lt's on the SS and I love them. And I haven't had any "issues". Yes, they hang a little low, but I clear speed bumps just fine (going over them slowly), and have never banged/scraped mine.

*TAG UR IT* · 09-24-2006, 11:23 PM

I'm looking for good hp gain, but I think losing 5 or so hp would be better than tearing up the pipes and having to worry about every bump. I wanted the SLP's, but those are just going to be way out of my price range. This is my everyday driver. So, going over the sh#tty roads is an everyday thing here. Those Mac's, with the way they hook up to the y-pipe, seem to just look like long tubes. I doubt the Mac's would put out that much less hp than long tubes. I wish I could find a comparison on the dyno w/ the mods I've done so far. I'm sure I could get quite a few extra hp w/ those Macs.

boxmonkeyracing · 09-25-2006, 06:41 AM

hey how about you take the money you are going to spend on your headers and mods and just put that torwards a new camaro? lol. just an idea. that's what I keep telling myself about my malibu. but I can't seem to sale it or wot not. I want to fix it up but that takes so much money away from my new camaro. but oh well. . .anyone want to go on pinks with me? if you win my car you can do whatever you want with it. lol. and let me tell ya more then likely you would win. it's only a 15 sec car. lol.

Moose · 09-25-2006, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

hey how about you take the money you are going to spend on your headers and mods and just put that torwards a new camaro? lol.

My personal choice.

I've put all mods. to the SS on hold.

*TAG UR IT* · 09-25-2006, 10:26 AM

I know, I know. That's what I keep trying to tell myself. We'll see.

Zeus · 12-24-2010, 12:45 PM

had to.

PQ · 12-24-2010, 12:51 PM

This thread flies.

2ndgenz28 · 12-24-2010, 01:01 PM

The scrape factor is why they even make other sizes over long tubes.

*mlee* · 12-24-2010, 01:20 PM

Oh god... here we go...

PQ · 12-24-2010, 01:45 PM

Do they make a pink header?

Zeus · 12-24-2010, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

Do they make a pink header?

09-24-2006, 02:10 AM	#1
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	Long Tubes or Mid Length Headers? I've been looking for headers to put on my 02 SS for some time now. I have been wanting long tubes w/ a 3 inch Y-pipe, but ran across the Mac mid-length headers also w/ y-pipe. Here's my dilemma. The long tubes are supposed to put out the most hp from what I understand. But they do hang low and will scrape the ground. I wouldn't run cats w/ them. Then, I saw the Mac mid lenght w/ y-pipe minus cats. From what I remember, the mid length don't put out as much hp, but I just don't know. They wouldn't scrape the ground like long tubes. Looking at the Mac mid length, it appears as though the way they hook up to the y-pipe, they might as well just be long tubes. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Which ones do I go for??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

12-24-2010, 12:51 PM	#10
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	This thread flies. __________________

12-24-2010, 01:20 PM	#12
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 37,496 View My Garage	Oh god... here we go... __________________

12-24-2010, 01:45 PM	#13
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	Do they make a pink header? __________________

09-24-2006, 01:38 PM	#3
KILLER74Z28 MOD SQUAD Drives: 2G1FT1EW9A9100666 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: West Michigan Posts: 5,782 View My Garage	I have always read that the long tube headers are the better performer . I have them on my 74 and love them. On the down side I have scraped them more than once on sh*tty roads. Tag my advice to you is to build the car on how it is going to be used. Is a few extra horses worth the aggravation or the worry?

09-24-2006, 03:09 PM	#4
Moose Moderator Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newtown, Pa. Posts: 3,982	Well, I've heard the longtubes are the way to go for more hp. I have the SLP lt's on the SS and I love them. And I haven't had any "issues". Yes, they hang a little low, but I clear speed bumps just fine (going over them slowly), and have never banged/scraped mine.

09-24-2006, 11:23 PM	#5
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	I'm looking for good hp gain, but I think losing 5 or so hp would be better than tearing up the pipes and having to worry about every bump. I wanted the SLP's, but those are just going to be way out of my price range. This is my everyday driver. So, going over the sh#tty roads is an everyday thing here. Those Mac's, with the way they hook up to the y-pipe, seem to just look like long tubes. I doubt the Mac's would put out that much less hp than long tubes. I wish I could find a comparison on the dyno w/ the mods I've done so far. I'm sure I could get quite a few extra hp w/ those Macs.

09-25-2006, 10:26 AM	#8
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	I know, I know. That's what I keep trying to tell myself. We'll see.

12-24-2010, 12:45 PM	#9
Zeus BOOOOOM MF'R!! Drives: to Chipotle daily Join Date: May 2009 Location: Flo-Rida Posts: 3,614	had to.

12-24-2010, 01:01 PM	#11
2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	The scrape factor is why they even make other sizes over long tubes.