Question: Firearms and Camaro boots

[Ambush]

Anyone here from New Jersey?

I got into a discussion with a friend, about storing firearms in the vehicle's trunk.

long story short, guns should be secured in a box/container in the trunk, and the driver can't access it from the cabin.

this means the rear seat must be locked and can't be folded down.

can you...lock the rear seat upright in a camaro?

thoughts?

[Blu Ray]

you cannot lock the seat in an upright position, therefore if your pulled over with guns in your trunk unsecured you will be going to jail

[blazzin1]

Does NJ issue concealed carry permits? If so, that seems like the logical solution.

[aggieguy13]

I believe you may be wrong on that.

Due to the castle law. Anything that is allowed in the hole is allowed in your car as it is an extension of your personal property. As long as the weapon is secured and out of site it is legal. IE glove box. U might check though. But I know that's what I was told and where I keep mine. Bit I have a CHL so I have a little more freedom with it

[RollaMo]

Originally Posted by Blu Ray

you cannot lock the seat in an upright position, therefore if your pulled over with guns in your trunk unsecured you will be going to jail

Or buy a convertible.
The rear seat back on a convertible does not fold forward.
No way into the truck from inside the car.

There is a key lock just behind the side bolster on the drivers side rear seat, that allows you manual access in the event of electrical failure.
And since it is a keyed cylinder, that should satisfy the "locked requirement"?

[Blu Ray]

NJ May Issue to Residents and Non-Residents
Issuance of the permit is almost completely discretionary, (HOW MUCH $$$$ YOU HAVE) and New Jersey courts have upheld the policy of strictly limiting permits “to persons specifically employed in security work . . . and to others who can establish an urgent necessity for carrying guns for self-protection (VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE)

[Blu Ray]

All firearms transported into the State of New Jersey:
* Shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel, shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.
* The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle’s glove compartment or console.
All firearms transported through the State of New Jersey:
The following guidelines are provided in order to assist law enforcement officers in applying New Jersey’s firearms laws to persons who are transporting firearms through the State of New Jersey.
1. New Jersey laws governing firearms permits, purchaser identification cards, registration and licenses do not apply to a person who is transporting the firearm through this State if that person is transporting the firearm in a manner permitted by federal law, 18 U.S.C.A. 926A.
2. This federal law permitting interstate transportation of a firearm applies only if all of the following requirements are met:
A. The person’s possession of the firearm was lawful in the state in which the journey began;
B.The person’s possession of the firearm will be lawful in the state in which the journey will end;
C. The person is transporting the firearm for lawful purpose
D. The firearm is unloaded
E. The firearm is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle
F. The ammunition is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle
G. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle’s glove compartment or console;
H. The person is not
1. a convicted felon
2. a fugitive from justice an addict or unlawful user of drugs, or
3. an illegal alien
I The person has not
1. been adjudicated to be a mental defective
2. been committed to a mental institution
3. been dishonorably discharged from the armed forces, or
4. renounced his United States Citizenship
3. A person who is transporting a firearm though the State of New Jersey in the manner permitted by person’s possession 18 U.S.C.A. 926A, see Section II above, need not give notice.
4. Procedures for Investigation of Conduct Involving the Possession or Transportation of Firearms
A. An officer who reasonably suspects that a person is transporting a firearm in violation of New Jersey law should make reasonable inquiries in order to confirm or dispel that suspicion.
B. In a case where circumstances reasonably indicate that the person’s possession and transportation of the firearms my be permitted by 18 U.S.C.A. 926A, the officer should make reasonable inquiries in order to determine whether the person’s possession is permitted by that federal law.
C. If reasonable inquiries lead an officer to conclude that the person’s possession is lawful under either New Jersey law or 18 U.S.C.A. 926A, as described above in Section II, the officer should promptly allow the person to proceed.
D. Whenever an officer has probable cause to believe that a person’s possession of a firearm is in violation of New Jersey law and not permitted by 18 U.S.C.A. 926A, as described above in Section II, then the officer should make an arrest.

[Camaro2ss2013]

Why live in a state where you can not protect yourself and family? NJ has the 2nd strictest gun laws in the country. They also don't have a constitutional amendment affirming the gun rights of its residents. Good luck getting a CCW in NJ.

[Ambush]

Originally Posted by Camaro2ss2013

Why live in a state where you can not protect yourself and family? NJ has the 2nd strictest gun laws in the country. They also don't have a constitutional amendment affirming the gun rights of its residents. Good luck getting a CCW in NJ.

some of us don't have a financial ability to leave nj yet :(

i'm guessing blu ray is a law enforcement officer. we have a few officers from scotch plains that come to our clinic.

[Camaro2ss2013]

Originally Posted by Jordan23

My advice is to MOVE. You're being robbed and I guess you say "wait I need to get my gun out of a locked box in my truck". Good luck with that.

Exactly!

[jkchambless]

It should be easy enough to add a slide lock inside the truck to secure it from the passenger compartment.

[Fogey]

Was told by a LEO that when I drive to the range, for example, I must have my guns in a locked box. If the box is in the trunk it's OK. If the box is in an SUV, (no trunk),it must be in the rear of the vehicle. He said the purpose was to force me to stop my vehicle, open the trunk or rear hatch, then unlock the box, giving a LEO time to pull his/her weapon. (And shoot my sorry ass).
I suspect having the Camaro seat not locking would still give them time as I am trying to crawl into the back seat, pull down a seat etc.

[warren3537]

It is nice to live in a state that allows you to carry a loaded weapon in your vehicle and said vehicle is an extension of your home plus car jackers can be dipatched on the spot if they try to take your vehicle without your permission or consent.....

[Ambush]

Originally Posted by jkchambless

It should be easy enough to add a slide lock inside the truck to secure it from the passenger compartment.

truck? :3

my only car's a camaro