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Kennedy SS · 02-23-2015, 12:10 PM

Love that pic. As for the post, my car is "super" enough for me, and will only get faster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

I would say no. One definition is "very expensive and fast sports car. Supercars are marketed by automakers as unusual and include limited production specials from an "elite" automaker, standard-looking cars modified for power and performance, as well as models that appeal to enthusiasts from smaller manufacturers."

"Supercar" is also a label custom car retrofitters reserve for their showcase, one-of-a-kind project vehicles; typically these are very extensively modified collectible muscle cars, sports cars or grand touring automobiles updated to the very latest "streetable" racing technology."

While you could argue that the ZL1 is a low production, high end Camaro that has "streetable racing technology (mag. ride, aero, etc), I still don't consider it a super car.

When someone says "Super Car" most people don't think of a Camaro..

unstable vic · 02-23-2015, 02:07 PM

It is to me!!!!!!!

2013ZL1FUN · 02-23-2015, 02:24 PM

The definition of a "Super Car" is as follows:
400+ horsepower, greater braking/handling than average car and 20+ MPG on highway at 65 MPH. My ZL1 meets these minimun criteria.

dmw56 · 02-23-2015, 02:29 PM

Yeah, but is it a Hot Rod?

Expunge · 02-23-2015, 02:36 PM

Is the Hellcat a supercar, is the GT500 a supercar? I consider them a highend car, the same as our ZL1's, but not a supercar. Can they hang with the supercar's, in some instances yes but it still does not make them a supercar.

My personal opinon of what makes a car a supercar is the price tag. ($100K+)

1ZL4FUN · 02-23-2015, 02:42 PM

Not a supercar. Just a musclecar...DUH!!

Norm Peterson · 02-23-2015, 02:52 PM

I'd say that the ZL1, Hellcat, and GT500 are supercar performers (more or less) without the snooty supercar "cachet" (gotta use a snobby-sounding word here).

Makes it a win-win, no?

Norm

45thAnniversary2SS · 02-23-2015, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013ZL1FUN

The definition of a "Super Car" is as follows:
400+ horsepower, greater braking/handling than average car and 20+ MPG on highway at 65 MPH. My ZL1 meets these minimun criteria.

So does my SS... woohooo! I have a supercar!

KaBoom1701 · 02-23-2015, 03:14 PM

The goodyear tires say "Supercar" on the side walls....

Must be true!

G7C ZL1 · 02-23-2015, 04:47 PM

I only bought my ZL1 because of the price break I got. The 20% off was too good to pass up given the other cars I was considering. The ZL1 was within 5k of other rides that I consider to be lesser cars, so I pulled the trigger. That said, however, I never would have considered a ZL1 at or anywhere near it's MSRP. I guess its a car with super-car-ish performance, without a super-car price tag. I think the price is part and parcel of the definition of a super-car.

Johnny Mac · 02-23-2015, 04:59 PM

European car's they build performance car's.

Thank God GM doesn't have their act together.
The salesman don't know the car's to build value.
Yeah it's not as fancy.
But boy oh boy is she a performance car.

Take the specs. to European car manufacturer they will give you a Supercar price.

harmonyp · 02-24-2015, 08:29 AM

I definitely didn't read all 12 pages of this thread so pardon me if I cut and paste something already done.

Wiki:
A supercar (also known as exotic car) is a very expensive and high-performance sports car or grand tourer.[1][2] Supercars are marketed by automakers as unusual and include limited production specials from an "elite" automaker, standard-looking cars modified for power and performance, as well as models that appeal to enthusiasts from smaller manufacturers.[3]
"Supercar" is also a label custom car retrofitters reserve for their showcase, one-of-a-kind project vehicles; typically these are very extensively modified collectible muscle cars, sports cars or grand touring automobiles updated to the very latest "streetable" racing technology.[4][5]

My gut answer to the question was "No" until I read the wiki definition. Now I'm on the fence about it.

I think the Z06 has reached Supercar status this year. I think the difference for me between the ZL1 and a Supercar, is that you can drive the ZL1 out in public without feeling completely conspicuous, whereas a supercar, you cannot! Only diff to me!

1ZL4FUN · 02-24-2015, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G7C ZL1

I only bought my ZL1 because of the price break I got. The 20% off was too good to pass up given the other cars I was considering. The ZL1 was within 5k of other rides that I consider to be lesser cars, so I pulled the trigger. That said, however, I never would have considered a ZL1 at or anywhere near it's MSRP. I guess its a car with super-car-ish performance, without a super-car price tag. I think the price is part and parcel of the definition of a super-car.

Similar story here. Looks like we picked up the same car all the way down to the sunroof. Good choice!

02-23-2015, 02:24 PM	#269
2013ZL1FUN Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible A6 BRM Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Dayton Ohio Area Posts: 499	The definition of a "Super Car" is as follows: 400+ horsepower, greater braking/handling than average car and 20+ MPG on highway at 65 MPH. My ZL1 meets these minimun criteria. __________________ 2013 ZL1 CONVERTIBLE BRM A6 OHIO

02-23-2015, 02:29 PM	#270
dmw56 Drives: 2014 2SS Red Hot 6M Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Edgewood, NM Posts: 229 View My Garage	Yeah, but is it a Hot Rod? __________________ CAI intake, ADM scoop, Roto Fab WW relocation kit, BBK 95mm TB, Kooks Headers full 3" exhaust with mufflers and HF cats, MSD 8.5mm plug wires,Tune by Southwest Speed

02-23-2015, 02:42 PM	#272
1ZL4FUN Drives: Red Beast X2 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Norcal Posts: 177 View My Garage	Not a supercar. Just a musclecar...DUH!! __________________ New ride 2017 Cadillac CTS V-Sport. High Tech Twin Turbo Cruiser. (sold then stolen) 2015 Red ZL1 M6 VIN: G1FL1EP5F9800197 FOR SALE 1995 Patriot Red 95Z28 M6 Project car. Less than 100k miles. 95 corvette motor. All good parts, too much to list. Just needs someone to put it together. (sold) 2002 CHP camaro B4C (sold) White 95Z A4 best 11.891 @ 114.269 boltons & weight reduction. Yes, it was a record. 11/13/02

02-23-2015, 03:14 PM	#275
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	The goodyear tires say "Supercar" on the side walls.... Must be true! __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

02-23-2015, 02:07 PM	#268
unstable vic Account Suspended Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 342	It is to me!!!!!!!

02-23-2015, 02:36 PM	#271
Expunge Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6, '99 Tahoe 2Dr Sport Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South of Houston, TX Posts: 890 View My Garage	Is the Hellcat a supercar, is the GT500 a supercar? I consider them a highend car, the same as our ZL1's, but not a supercar. Can they hang with the supercar's, in some instances yes but it still does not make them a supercar. My personal opinon of what makes a car a supercar is the price tag. ($100K+)

02-23-2015, 02:52 PM	#273
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	I'd say that the ZL1, Hellcat, and GT500 are supercar performers (more or less) without the snooty supercar "cachet" (gotta use a snobby-sounding word here). Makes it a win-win, no? Norm

02-23-2015, 04:47 PM	#276
G7C ZL1 Bully Drives: G7C ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Santa Rosa Plateau Posts: 27 View My Garage	I only bought my ZL1 because of the price break I got. The 20% off was too good to pass up given the other cars I was considering. The ZL1 was within 5k of other rides that I consider to be lesser cars, so I pulled the trigger. That said, however, I never would have considered a ZL1 at or anywhere near it's MSRP. I guess its a car with super-car-ish performance, without a super-car price tag. I think the price is part and parcel of the definition of a super-car.

02-23-2015, 04:59 PM	#277
Johnny Mac Drives: 2015 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Socal Posts: 159	European car's they build performance car's. Thank God GM doesn't have their act together. The salesman don't know the car's to build value. Yeah it's not as fancy. But boy oh boy is she a performance car. Take the specs. to European car manufacturer they will give you a Supercar price.

02-24-2015, 08:29 AM	#278
harmonyp Drives: 2015 ZL1 Silver Ice Metallic Manual Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: NorCal Posts: 249	I definitely didn't read all 12 pages of this thread so pardon me if I cut and paste something already done. Wiki: A supercar (also known as exotic car) is a very expensive and high-performance sports car or grand tourer.[1][2] Supercars are marketed by automakers as unusual and include limited production specials from an "elite" automaker, standard-looking cars modified for power and performance, as well as models that appeal to enthusiasts from smaller manufacturers.[3] "Supercar" is also a label custom car retrofitters reserve for their showcase, one-of-a-kind project vehicles; typically these are very extensively modified collectible muscle cars, sports cars or grand touring automobiles updated to the very latest "streetable" racing technology.[4][5] My gut answer to the question was "No" until I read the wiki definition. Now I'm on the fence about it. I think the Z06 has reached Supercar status this year. I think the difference for me between the ZL1 and a Supercar, is that you can drive the ZL1 out in public without feeling completely conspicuous, whereas a supercar, you cannot! Only diff to me!